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[QUOTE="Zelda Zonk, post: 3979832, member: 966"]
Where did i say we weren't on a similar level with Michigan State, Nova, and UConn? In terms of national rankings, maybe? Yeah, i'll stand by that in two and a half of those cases.

re: Nova—20 years and not having announced a retirement is a pretty significant difference.

Top 80—i'm off by 5-15, depending on the recruiting service. There are kids in the 75-100 range who are in the 20-25th players at their positions. So, yes, as i said—i wasn't speaking about any one particular player. Generalizing. Concepts. Right. That doesn't really change the point, though. If you're a conference .500 team, and you're fighting to get players ranked nationally at 16-25 in their position, is that enough of a talent impact to get you into the top 4 of your conference? That's the question. If you think so, then say so—this isn't an argument. It's supposed to be a respectful, friendly discussion of a difference of opinion re: perspectives. And, if you look closely, i'm the one recognizing there are multiple valid perspectives. Was it really necessary to label it/me as "lunatic?" It's that kind of BS that takes an adult conversation into football board territory.
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