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Message: [QUOTE="CuseOnly, post: 1382620, member: 2804"] I was not against either of them, I was actually for both and I like both of them for different reasons. I understand not paying a HC a lot until they are proven (Shafer/Marrone), my issue is not looking for a big name proven coach when you have the opportunity because you want to cheap out. I don't want Shafer fired, I want him successful...but my question would be, what are we going to get if he is fired? Another coordinator that we can pay $1-1.5 mil? That appears to be the pattern and the MO of SU. I would prefer to keep Shafer another 4 years with mediocre results and learning on the job than do that horrible dance again. If they aren't going to spend the money then they better not fire him. If they are going to spend $4 mil/year on a coach then by all means get rid of him if we don' win 16-18 games over the next 2 years. [/QUOTE]