OL statistics

[NineOneSeven]

Yes, this drum has repeatedly been beaten but found an interesting site to try to rank OL performance.

According to this, SU is 127/130 for sack rate. We like to compare ourselves to BC and based on this ranking system, they are #1.

2019 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE LINE STATS | Football Outsiders

through games of Saturday 1/13/20 Offense Line Yards Rk Std. Downs Line Yards Rk Pass. Downs Line Yards

www.footballoutsiders.com

 

[Ozcuse]

That's not very good at all.

 

[Chip]

gross

 

[CuseCrew08]

I was afraid to open this thread. My fears were confirmed...

 

[NineOneSeven]

Interesting numbers behind rushing as well.

And by interesting I mean bad.

 

[cusefan88]

I'd like to see Pat Davis get extended run.

 

[AAM62]

I said this in another thread but how come we cant recruit OL like BC? Is it Addazio?

 

[RoatanCuse]

Interesting numbers behind rushing as well.

And by interesting I mean bad.

Last game we averaged 1.5 yds per rush. We're improving.

 

[Chip]

I'd like to see Pat Davis get extended run.

At this point I'd like to see anyone with the last name Davis get extended run. Geena, Bette, Sammy Jr.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I said this in another thread but how come we cant recruit OL like BC? Is it Addazio?

BC has always done well developing offensive linemen. Predates Addazio, by an awful lot.

I really don't know why. Not sure what explains it.

 

[sutomcat]

Yes, this drum has repeatedly been beaten but found an interesting site to try to rank OL performance.

According to this, SU is 127/130 for sack rate. We like to compare ourselves to BC and based on this ranking system, they are #1.

2019 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE LINE STATS | Football Outsiders

through games of Saturday 1/13/20 Offense Line Yards Rk Std. Downs Line Yards Rk Pass. Downs Line Yards

www.footballoutsiders.com

One of their starters, John Phillips, is a redshirt senior from Phoenix, NY. Went to CBA. His brother went to Syracuse.

Syracuse did not offer. I think BC was his one and only offer. Note that Dino and this staff were not involved in his recruitment. That one is on Shafer and his crew.

 

[Scooch]

So we're not LITERALLY the worst. I hope everyone calms down now.

 

[Millhouse]

BC has always done well developing offensive linemen. Predates Addazio, by an awful lot.

I really don't know why. Not sure what explains it.

big giant people like rain, running, and punting

we don't need to be worldbeaters, we just can't be atrocious. it'll get better, wake me up then

 

[NineOneSeven]

One of their starters, John Phillips, is a redshirt senior from Phoenix, NY. Went to CBA. His brother went to Syracuse.

Syracuse did not offer. I think BC was his one and only offer. Note that Dino and this staff were not involved in his recruitment. That one is on Shafer and his crew.

Wow, did not know that. CBA really?

 

[NineOneSeven]

Wake also has a great oline. Not a good recipe for the two games we think are our best chance of winning the rest of the season. Considering our defensive strength is getting pressure off the edge from our d ends.

 

[RandomGuy]

I said this in another thread but how come we cant recruit OL like BC? Is it Addazio?

I think we recruit about the same. Meathead philosophy is entirely based on line developement, so I suspect they spend an enormous amount of time and assets on it. Meathead is traditional, and translates to traditional grading metrics.

Spread, tempo, scheme, etc. Often allow less developed linemen to be successful in College. The entire ACC line play is down, and I suspect its a balancing act based on some of those factors, and where time and assets are spent.

The balancing act can allow teams to play above their weight, and can translate into an exciting product. When it goes wrong? (This year's ACC) it's not always pretty.

Here's an article how the NFL views college oline play .

The NFL’s Offensive Line Crisis Has No Single Diagnosis

Why has the league’s on-field product seemed lackluster at times in 2017? Look no further than a problem with multiple causes, and no easy solution.

www.google.com

 

[AAM62]

I think we recruit about the same. Meathead philosophy is entirely based on line developement, so I suspect they spend an enormous amount of time and assets on it. Meathead is traditional, and translates to traditional grading metrics.

Spread, tempo, scheme, etc. Often allow less developed linemen to be successful in College. The entire ACC line play is down, and I suspect its a balancing act based on some of those factors, and where time and assets are spent.

The balancing act can allow teams to play above their weight, and can translate into an exciting product. When it goes wrong? (This year's ACC) it's not always pretty.

Here's an article how the NFL views college oline play .

The NFL’s Offensive Line Crisis Has No Single Diagnosis

Why has the league’s on-field product seemed lackluster at times in 2017? Look no further than a problem with multiple causes, and no easy solution.

www.google.com

um...why are they a meathead offense? is a meathead offense a non spread offense that likes to run? They do run tempo just like everyone else and use TEs like many posters have been wishing for over the last 4 years. Dino also wants to run and imagine if we had AJ Dillion? we would ride that horse nonstop.

 

[UnknownOrange]

carry the 4, adjust the formula, round up...


... yeah our line stinks. I came to the same conclusion

 

[cuse309]

I'm shocked we aren't 130.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

um...why are they a meathead offense?

Come on, man. You've been on this board for how long now?

 

[FrancoPizza]

Spread, tempo, scheme, etc. Often allow less developed linemen to be successful in College.

So you're saying they'd be even worse in a meathead system?

 

[shu 49]

um...why are they a meathead offense? is a meathead offense a non spread offense that likes to run? They do run tempo just like everyone else and use TEs like many posters have been wishing for over the last 4 years. Dino also wants to run and imagine if we had AJ Dillion? we would ride that horse nonstop.

Yeah but we could have Jim Brown and he ain’t getting no yardage running up aa gaps all day with no blocking lol

 

[RandomGuy]

um...why are they a meathead offense? is a meathead offense a non spread offense that likes to run? They do run tempo just like everyone else and use TEs like many posters have been wishing for over the last 4 years. Dino also wants to run and imagine if we had AJ Dillion? we would ride that horse nonstop.

They run a lot of man/power. Have to watch more to see if they incorporate ZBS. Not sure if I've seen RPO blocking from them.(linemen need to pull up short) Different principles. They're more based on traditional power(smashmouth push) we're more based on scheme. Different type of blocking.

 

[RandomGuy]

So you're saying they'd be even worse in a meathead system?

Yes. The article I linked says college linemen aren't as schooled in traditional fundamentals. Spread, Tempo, allows lesser "traditionally" developed to succeed in certain college systems. BC is traditional, therefore they have to develop those things more than other schools do.(my guess, anyway)

Neither is wrong for the college game.

 

[orlandoorange]

So do we have the 127th worst OL talent or is this a coaching thing. I can't imagine our talent is that poor and if it is that bad than what's that say about our player evaluation?