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^good get...this is confirmed by source and negotiations for TV dollars are underway also. The ACC owns the TV rights and therefore controls 100% of the TV dollars...it is also being negotiated on how much the competitor in the OB will receive from the ACC...'Cuse is in good shape.
 
This pretty much confirms what Jack Swarbrick said last Wednesday during the press conference after the announcement that Notre Dame was joining (except for FB) the ACC.

Rumblings are the Orange is in line for the same sort of payday as the Rose and Champs Bowls. This will not please certain parties in the Big 12.
 
According to ESPN, the Orange Bowl is close to announcing a deal in which the ACC team would face either Notre Dame, an SEC school or a Big Ten school.

http://espn.go.com/college-football...tic-coast-conference-working-deal-orange-bowl
So, the Orange bowl gets either the #2 or #3 from SEC/Big 10, depending upon how the season plays out. If both leagues' champs make the semifinals, the third place teams of each would be in the mix. If neither leagues' champs make the semifinals, then the second place team from both leagues would be available. And, of course, if one or the other, but not both, make it, then a #2 and a #3 would be in the mix.

And then there is ND. And maybe the #4 SEC if their top two teams make the semifinals and the third goes to the Champions Bowl.

Are we all now thoroughly confused?

In any case, there is the possibility of some nice match-ups for the ACC champ. And, a variety of opponents from year to year.
 
This can't be. The BE was guaranteed a spot at the table. :rolling:
 
So, the Orange bowl gets either the #2 or #3 from SEC/Big 10, depending upon how the season plays out. If both leagues' champs make the semifinals, the third place teams of each would be in the mix. If neither leagues' champs make the semifinals, then the second place team from both leagues would be available. And, of course, if one or the other, but not both, make it, then a #2 and a #3 would be in the mix.

And then there is ND. And maybe the #4 SEC if their top two teams make the semifinals and the third goes to the Champions Bowl.

Are we all now thoroughly confused?

In any case, there is the possibility of some nice match-ups for the ACC champ. And, a variety of opponents from year to year.
so how would it have played out last year? VTech vs. #2 B1G?
 
So, the Orange bowl gets either the #2 or #3 from SEC/Big 10, depending upon how the season plays out. If both leagues' champs make the semifinals, the third place teams of each would be in the mix. If neither leagues' champs make the semifinals, then the second place team from both leagues would be available. And, of course, if one or the other, but not both, make it, then a #2 and a #3 would be in the mix.

And then there is ND. And maybe the #4 SEC if their top two teams make the semifinals and the third goes to the Champions Bowl.

Are we all now thoroughly confused?

In any case, there is the possibility of some nice match-ups for the ACC champ. And, a variety of opponents from year to year.

You have it correct as to the B1G and SEC teams involved. What is confusing some people is that it os being advertised by some as B1G #1 or SEC #1 without the clarifier that it is pick #1 and not the 1st place team from those conferences. Bottom line is that it could be the #2-4 teams from those conferences or ND.

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You have it correct as to the B1G and SEC teams involved. What is confusing some people is that it os being advertised by some as B1G #1 or SEC #1 without the clarifier that it is pick #1 and not the 1st place team from those conferences. Bottom line is that it could be the #2-4 teams from those conferences or ND.

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Could it ever be the #4 team? Would that mean the semis are 2 SEC and 2 B1G? Or 2 from one league and the other league is horrible? Both seem unlikely. Seems like it would be a 2 or 3 most years. But could also likely be the ACC #2 as well. Can't assume this league will be without a horse forever. FSU might be flipping it back this year. That was an impressive, old school Bowden dismantling of Wake.


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So, the Orange bowl gets either the #2 or #3 from SEC/Big 10, depending upon how the season plays out. If both leagues' champs make the semifinals, the third place teams of each would be in the mix. If neither leagues' champs make the semifinals, then the second place team from both leagues would be available. And, of course, if one or the other, but not both, make it, then a #2 and a #3 would be in the mix.

And then there is ND. And maybe the #4 SEC if their top two teams make the semifinals and the third goes to the Champions Bowl.

Are we all now thoroughly confused?

In any case, there is the possibility of some nice match-ups for the ACC champ. And, a variety of opponents from year to year.


Read Frank's excellent description of what seems likely. And yes, it is confusing.

http://frankthetank.wordpress.com/2...ay-picks-and-classic-music-video-of-the-week/
 
Could it ever be the #4 team? Would that mean the semis are 2 SEC and 2 B1G? Or 2 from one league and the other league is horrible? Both seem unlikely. Seems like it would be a 2 or 3 most years. But could also likely be the ACC #2 as well. Can't assume this league will be without a horse forever. FSU might be flipping it back this year. That was an impressive, old school Bowden dismantling of Wake.


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Yep, most years it would be a 2 or a 3 or ND. But my math says there is the rare possibility it can be a 4.

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so how would it have played out last year? VTech vs. #2 B1G?
Clemson won the ACC last year. But, I expect they would have showed better against either Big 10 or SEC runners-up than they did vs. WVa.
 
In Swofford we trust. The dude is shrewd and may not have cache of the SEC, but kills it as Commissioner. I am sure the good ole' boys network of North Carolina get taken care of by this guy, but getting the B1G and SEC is perfect. The SEC has had 3 top 10 in the end of season polls for the last 4 years so this arrangement is great.
 
This is a good deal for the ACC but a huge deal for the B1G and SEC. Think about it. ACC will get money from OB every year and playoff when qualified. B1G and SEC will get money from thier bowls every year, playoff when qualifed and now they have a chance to go to another big money bowl. When all 3 bowls line up the B1G and SEC will have a huge payout.
 
This is a good deal for the ACC but a huge deal for the B1G and SEC. Think about it. ACC will get money from OB every year and playoff when qualified. B1G and SEC will get money from thier bowls every year, playoff when qualifed and now they have a chance to go to another big money bowl. When all 3 bowls line up the B1G and SEC will have a huge payout.

Hopefully Swofford isn't done yet. Where the ACC number 2 goes will be interesting. Today it is to the Chick-fil-a Bowl. With Notre Dame in the mix now, could the ACC land the Sugar or Fiesta?
 
Hopefully Swofford isn't done yet. Where the ACC number 2 goes will be interesting. Today it is to the Chick-fil-a Bowl. With Notre Dame in the mix now, could the ACC land the Sugar or Fiesta?
How about Cotton? Jerry Jones wants to build it back into a top-tier bowl game.
 
Hopefully Swofford isn't done yet. Where the ACC number 2 goes will be interesting. Today it is to the Chick-fil-a Bowl. With Notre Dame in the mix now, could the ACC land the Sugar or Fiesta?
Sugar Bowl could become destroyed if the Champions Bowl picks New Orleans for its location. Same for the Cotton Bowl if JerryWorld wins that bidding. As long as the ACC gets less bowls with Big East matchups I will be happy. If its
1. Orange Bowl
2. Chick-fil-a Bowl
3. Orlando Bowl whatever its called now
4. Sun Bowl
5. Belk Bowl
6. Music City Bowl
7. Pinstripe Bowl
8. D.C. Bowl
This is a fine lineup for me.
 
By David Teel
12:30 p.m. EDT, September 18, 2012
The ACC’s opponents in future Orange Bowls likely will include Notre Dame and teams from the Big Ten and Southeastern Conference.
Orange Bowl and ACC officials announced a 12-year extension — the term coincides with the four-team playoff college football adopted for 2014-25 — of their contract in July. Since, the question has been, whom will the ACC play?
As ESPN.com’s Brett McMurphy first reported Monday evening, and a source subsequently confirmed, the answer appears to be Notre Dame, the SEC and Big Ten.
Details remain, but here’s how the arrangement figures to work:
During the 12-year playoff run, the Orange will host four national semifinals. That leaves eight regular Orange Bowls, with the ACC serving as the anchor team.
That team will be the ACC champion, unless the champ qualifies for the national semifinals, in which case the Orange Bowl will select another representative from the conference.
Based on rankings and/or a contracted rotation, the ACC squad would face an available team from among the SEC, Big Ten and Notre Dame. Key word: available.
For example, the champions of the SEC and/or Big Ten could qualify the playoff semis. Failing that, the Big Ten champion, per tradition and contract, would head to the Rose Bowl, unless the Rose was hosting a semifinal. Similarly, an SEC champ bypassed for the playoff would head to the so-called Champions Bowl, the new game matching the SEC and Big 12 winners, that, also, in years that the Champions wasn’t hosting a semifinal.
Translation: In most, if not all, of the eight Orange Bowls, the ACC would play a high-profile, top-10 opponent.
Depending on Notre Dame’s ranking, there might be some seasons when the Orange Bowl would draw the No. 3 or 4 team from the SEC or Big Ten. That would occur when those conferences sent their top team(s) to the playoff and No. 2 or 3 to their contract bowl, Champions or Rose.
Conversely, when a Big Ten and/or SEC champion did not make the playoff, and the league’s contract bowl was staging a semifinal, that champion would be eligible for the Orange Bowl.
Confusing, I know.
How might such an arrangement have worked in past seasons?
Contingent upon which bowls were hosting semifinals, last season Clemson would have faced either Arkansas, Wisconsin or Michigan in the Orange Bowl rather than Big East champion West Virginia. Each of those three was ranked at least 10 spots higher than the No. 23 Mountaineers in the final Bowl Championship Series standings.
(Settle down, WVU faithful. That’s not a shot. Just facts. And we all know, 70-33.)
In the January 2011 Orange Bowl, Virginia Tech would have played either Wisconsin, Ohio State, Arkansas or LSU instead of Stanford. Like the Cardinal, each of the four was among the BCS’ top 10.
The most recent season Notre Dame would have entered the mix was 2006, when the Fighting Irish completed the regular season 10-2 and No. 11 in the BCS standings. They, along with Wisconsin, Auburn and Arkansas would have been possible Orange Bowl opponents for Wake Forest. The Deacons faced No. 6 Louisville from the Big East instead.
Much more to come on the ACC’s Orange Bowl deal, likely by month’s end.
 
What will happen to the ACC champion in years the Orange Bowl hosts a playoff game and the ACC doesn't have a team in the top 4?
 
What will happen to the ACC champion in years the Orange Bowl hosts a playoff game and the ACC doesn't have a team in the top 4?

They'll play at MetLife.

<insert devil emoticon here>

;)
 
What will happen to the ACC champion in years the Orange Bowl hosts a playoff game and the ACC doesn't have a team in the top 4?


The champion of each contract bowl conference (ACC) is guaranteed a spot in the access bowl if they aren't in the playoff bowls and their contract bowl is serving as a playoff bowl.
 
You have it correct as to the B1G and SEC teams involved. What is confusing some people is that it os being advertised by some as B1G #1 or SEC #1 without the clarifier that it is pick #1 and not the 1st place team from those conferences. Bottom line is that it could be the #2-4 teams from those conferences or ND.

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Unless the Rose Bowl/Champions Bowl is hosting, and no teams from the B1G/SEC are in the top 4. Then it literally would be the #1 team in the conference as I understand it. That means that the OB should have a potential SEC/B1G conference champion every year, with the chance at ND*.

*I've heard that ND can replace a SEC team once every 6 years, and a B1G team once every 6 years.

(The Rose Bowl, the Champions Bowl, and the Orange Bowl will all host, but I think they will do it in a rotation, so only one hosts at a given time, so whenever the OB is not hosting, a SEC/B1G team that would otherwise play in the Champions Bowl or the Rose bowl will be free.)
 
Yep, most years it would be a 2 or a 3 or ND. But my math says there is the rare possibility it can be a 4.

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As I understand it, this could only happen if the Champions Bowl is hosting and the SEC sends 3/4 teams to the football four, and the #4 SEC team is better than the #2/3 B1G team/ND.

It is possible, but HIGHLY unlikely.
 
Unless the Rose Bowl/Champions Bowl is hosting, and no teams from the B1G/SEC are in the top 4. Then it literally would be the #1 team in the conference as I understand it. That means that the OB should have a potential SEC/B1G conference champion every year, with the chance at ND*.

*I've heard that ND can replace a SEC team once every 6 years, and a B1G team once every 6 years.

(The Rose Bowl, the Champions Bowl, and the Orange Bowl will all host, but I think they will do it in a rotation, so only one hosts at a given time, so whenever the OB is not hosting, a SEC/B1G team that would otherwise play in the Champions Bowl or the Rose bowl will be free.)

Don't think it works that way. Its typically going to be 2nd or 3rd.

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As I understand it, this could only happen if the Champions Bowl is hosting and the SEC sends 3/4 teams to the football four, and the #4 SEC team is better than the #2/3 B1G team/ND.

It is possible, but HIGHLY unlikely.

That's why I said rare.

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