Oshae Brissett: Maccabi Playtika Tel Aviv

[JarHeadJim]

Hope he fired his agent.

 

[HakAttack]

Ooof. Turning down 2.5M? Bad move.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Hope he fired his agent.

Little comfort, but his agent kind of fired himself.

 

[kirbivore]

The saga continues, Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang... but no Triumph

Ex-Celtics Wing Battling Free Agency Frustrations After Title Run

Former Celtics forward and current free agent Oshae Brissett voiced his frustrations with NBA unemployment during his latest YouTube vlog.

nesn.com

Like the dude but he played himself. Should've fired the agent and taken the $ and played for team Canada last summer.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[orangemass]

He had the Celtics option. His agent should be fired

 

[orangefog]

He had the Celtics option. His agent should be fired

And beaten.

 

[Sbucketball]

He had the Celtics option. His agent should be fired

Did his agent talk him into this (or not try to talk him out of it)?

 

[tptcuse]

Whenever this thread pops up I feel genuinely sad for Oshae. Such a great kid and he does some great things on the court. He should 100% be on a roster right now. I hope something works out for him soon.

 

[orangefog]

Whenever this thread pops up I feel genuinely sad for Oshae. Such a great kid and he does some great things on the court. He should 100% be on a roster right now. I hope something works out for him soon.

Yeah, once you have a spot, it’s dumb to give it up.

 

[jncuse]

Are we sure the agent gave him bad advice? (it could certainly be the agent though)
Perhaps they advised Oshae to take the money, and Oshae decided to bet on himself in FA.

Its tough when a player like Oshae goes to FA, because teams are not going to risk tampering by back channeling info for a fringe player like Brissett. And he tends to get the leftovers... you have to be the lucky one that gets beyond the vet minimum, as most teams are over the cap and use up their exemptions.

Whether it was the agent, Oshae or both, an unfortunate call. There are certainly different tiers of life changing money, but having $1 to $1.5m less after taxes can certainly alter your life a fair bit.

 

[jncuse]

As I side note, I should get the chance to see Oshae play this weekend.
Going to catch the Raptors-Nets G-League game that is played in Montreal, after visiting my cousin earlier that day,

 

[HyattsCuse]

He had the Celtics option. His agent should be fired

I have to wonder if there was more to this situation behind the scenes? I get betting on yourself, wanting a better opportunity, and all that, but you would think his agent had to know at least a little bit if his client had a market?

Pre-NIL, we knew college guys got bags through back channels. Does it happen in the pros? Like are there situations where a team will pay a player indirectly maybe sometime in the future to NOT take his player option?

In this case, a team like the Celtics would be motivated to do that if paying Oshae to not take his player option benefits them in significant luxury tax savings. May seem unlikely, but I find it hard to believe that NBA teams operate completely within the rules all the time.

 

[jncuse]

I have to wonder if there was more to this situation behind the scenes? I get betting on yourself, wanting a better opportunity, and all that, but you would think his agent had to know at least a little bit if his client had a market?

Pre-NIL, we knew college guys got bags through back channels. Does it happen in the pros? Like are there situations where a team will pay a player indirectly maybe sometime in the future to NOT take his player option?

In this case, a team like the Celtics would be motivated to do that if paying Oshae to not take his player option benefits them in significant luxury tax savings. May seem unlikely, but I find it hard to believe that NBA teams operate completely within the rules all the time.

The salary cap, and the fact that almost every team is above the cap line causes issues in terms of what teams are willing to promise the agents of fringe player. Capped teams are limited in terms of what they have to offer FA's... they have an exemption or two to sign FA's above the vet min, but they tend to give those to rotation level players, not more end of bench guys like Oshae. And now because of the hard cap, a handful of teams don't even have those exemptions to offer anymore, which puts the squeeze just a bit more tight on veteran end of bench guys.

Teams certainly backchannel info. But front offices want to retain their credibility with agents and don't want to make false promises to them especially on lesser players.

As a fringe player, you hope to get a little raise from the team you are on. Or hope to get a portion of an exemption as a FA. But it doesn't always break your way - and teams aren't going to guarantee fringe players before the signing period.

 

[RandygoCuse]

I have to wonder if there was more to this situation behind the scenes? I get betting on yourself, wanting a better opportunity, and all that, but you would think his agent had to know at least a little bit if his client had a market?

Pre-NIL, we knew college guys got bags through back channels. Does it happen in the pros? Like are there situations where a team will pay a player indirectly maybe sometime in the future to NOT take his player option?

In this case, a team like the Celtics would be motivated to do that if paying Oshae to not take his player option benefits them in significant luxury tax savings. May seem unlikely, but I find it hard to believe that NBA teams operate completely within the rules all the time.

The only case of back-channel money I remember hearing about was with Andre Kirilenko and the Nets. The owner was allegedly paying him through one of his Russian businesses. At that point in his career, Kirilenko didn't end up adding much. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't know of any other cases.

 

[JeffCuse]

I wish he stayed in Boston. I think Boston could have used his energy off the bench. They've had some very sluggish stretches

 

[RealMcNeil]

The only case of back-channel money I remember hearing about was with Andre Kirilenko and the Nets. The owner was allegedly paying him through one of his Russian businesses. At that point in his career, Kirilenko didn't end up adding much. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but I don't know of any other cases.

Joe Smith. Not identical, but similar flavor of under the table deal.

The bizarre saga of Joe Smith's illegal Minnesota Timberwolves contract

If an NBA team planned to sign a player to an illegal contract that could cost them a ton of money and future draft picks, they’d better be sure the player is worth it. That’s a risk you take to bring in a superstar, a franchise-changing player who can make you a title conten

ftw.usatoday.com

 

[RandygoCuse]

Joe Smith. Not identical, but similar flavor of under the table deal.

The bizarre saga of Joe Smith's illegal Minnesota Timberwolves contract

If an NBA team planned to sign a player to an illegal contract that could cost them a ton of money and future draft picks, they’d better be sure the player is worth it. That’s a risk you take to bring in a superstar, a franchise-changing player who can make you a title conten

ftw.usatoday.com

Good call - I remember everyone saying "you did that for JOE SMITH??"

 

[rrlbees]

Oshae Brissett talks Celtics departure, NBA free agency, and return to basketball

Boston Celtics champion Oshae Brissett signed a deal with the Long Island Nets in the G League, and he spoke with Hardwood Houdini about his journey back.

hardwoodhoudini.com

 

[HyattsCuse]

Oshae Brissett talks Celtics departure, NBA free agency, and return to basketball

Boston Celtics champion Oshae Brissett signed a deal with the Long Island Nets in the G League, and he spoke with Hardwood Houdini about his journey back.

hardwoodhoudini.com

Thanks for sharing. This quote jumped out at me.

“I feel like I always say it's tough to stay in the NBA more than get on a team,” said Brissett. “So, you kind of have to do what you do to stay there.“

Sooo…he did the exact opposite of what he always says? I get wanting more playing time, but just baffled a fringe player would turn down a guaranteed year in the NBA. Hope he can grind his way back.

 

[Hopkins16]

Thanks for sharing. This quote jumped out at me.

“I feel like I always say it's tough to stay in the NBA more than get on a team,” said Brissett. “So, you kind of have to do what you do to stay there.“

Sooo…he did the exact opposite of what he always says? I get wanting more playing time, but just baffled a fringe player would turn down a guaranteed year in the NBA. Hope he can grind his way back.

I will never understand how he went undrafted, fought his way into the NBA, became a fringe/bench player on a championship team and then turn down a guaranteed contract from them. I could understand if he was a fringe player who excelled when given an opportunity for a lot of minutes due to a rotation player being out (ie: Jordan Poole). He had some good moments when he came off the bench but nothing exceptional to make him believe that he could be a highly regarded free agent.

 

[rrlbees]

In his first G league game he played 20 mins and had 8 pts, 9 rebs, 3 asts and 2 stls. The second game he played 26 mins and had 15 pts, 7 rebs and a steal.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]