Class of 2023 - OT/DT Naquil Betrand (PA / MD) Portal from Texas A&M to Bama | Page 26 | Syracusefan.com

Class of 2023 OT/DT Naquil Betrand (PA / MD) Portal from Texas A&M to Bama

money3189 said:
You recruit players you feel can help your team. Every player wont pan out. SU is a development program so signing transfers like Zeed, Miller and Heard is important. Grabbing guys like Bleich Clark Villari Bellamy Wohlabaugh Igraham helps the team. Those guys rarely played at their previous school
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Are we still a developmental program with Fran Brown ? Seems like we are getting much higher quality athletes now
 
money3189 said:
You recruit players you feel can help your team. Every player wont pan out. SU is a development program so signing transfers like Zeed, Miller and Heard is important. Grabbing guys like Bleich Clark Villari Bellamy Wohlabaugh Igraham helps the team. Those guys rarely played at their previous school
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Hopefully under the new staff we can eventually stop saying we are a development program or great at finding diamonds in the rough.
 
AZOrange said:
Yeah and that JUCO is already out there…
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Interesting. So I'm inferring from your post that the staff viewed Betrand as a DT, not an OL?
 
money3189 said:
Until the product actually produce on the field. Yes we are
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Amen

We also need to wrap our heads around the reality that the top of the ACC has been stacking recruiting and portal classes similar to or better than Fran's current class for years. I know some will say - but he did that in less than a month and without a full staff. Very true. The future is bright. It's reasonable to have much higher expectations for the program going forward. But, all of the chest thumping, we will be in the ACC championship game, we have arrived stuff needs to be dialed back until we consistently win on the field.

We still need to recruit, develop, and coach the talent to get there.
 
007 said:
Amen

We also need to wrap our heads around the reality that the top of the ACC has been stacking recruiting and portal classes similar to or better than Fran's current class for years. I know some will say - but he did that in less than a month and without a full staff. Very true. The future is bright. It's reasonable to have much higher expectations for the program going forward. But, all of the chest thumping, we will be in the ACC championship game, we have arrived stuff needs to be dialed back until we consistently win on the field.

We still need to recruit, develop, and coach the talent to get there.
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They have - but we do have the advantage of a pretty healthy portal this year AND that many of our new hires are aces that we’re working the ‘24 and ‘25 classes hard AND Fran and ERob coming from GA (stacked roster) and A&M (coaching change). So yeah it definitely could be better heading into the ‘24 season if the staff had been here a few years, but we still have a lot going for us that most teams with new coaches don’t.
 
tep624 said:
They have - but we do have the advantage of a pretty healthy portal this year AND that many of our new hires are aces that we’re working the ‘24 and ‘25 classes hard AND Fran and ERob coming from GA (stacked roster) and A&M (coaching change). So yeah it definitely could be better heading into the ‘24 season if the staff had been here a few years, but we still have a lot going for us that most teams with new coaches don’t.
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Yeah, of course. I realize all that. To be clear, I am a huge believer in what Fran and the staff have already done and what they will be able to do going forward. There are also significant things happening with NIL that will accelerate the process.
 
007 said:
Amen

We also need to wrap our heads around the reality that the top of the ACC has been stacking recruiting and portal classes similar to or better than Fran's current class for years. I know some will say - but he did that in less than a month and without a full staff. Very true. The future is bright. It's reasonable to have much higher expectations for the program going forward. But, all of the chest thumping, we will be in the ACC championship game, we have arrived stuff needs to be dialed back until we consistently win on the field.

We still need to recruit, develop, and coach the talent to get there.
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Agree
 
007 said:
Yeah, of course. I realize all that. To be clear, I am a huge believer in what Fran and the staff have already done and what they will be able to do going forward. There are also significant things happening with NIL that will accelerate the process.
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Yeah we just need to take it easy with the expectations. Talk of conference championships and playoffs next season are beyond premature.
 
007 said:
Amen

We also need to wrap our heads around the reality that the top of the ACC has been stacking recruiting and portal classes similar to or better than Fran's current class for years. I know some will say - but he did that in less than a month and without a full staff. Very true. The future is bright. It's reasonable to have much higher expectations for the program going forward. But, all of the chest thumping, we will be in the ACC championship game, we have arrived stuff needs to be dialed back until we consistently win on the field.

We still need to recruit, develop, and coach the talent to get there.
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Yep no corners turned yet.
 
tep624 said:
Yeah we just need to take it easy with the expectations. Talk of conference championships and playoffs next season are beyond premature.
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Have to fix the OL before putting the card ahead of the horse. Miller was a nice ad, need another piece or two, in my opinion.

Also need help at dtn corner, any talk of challenging for a conference championship is premature unless those things fall into place.

Which is certainly no guarantee
 
OrangeAl said:
When you lose out on a player twice in two years, then I guess he was never that impressed with us.
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I may be wrong but I believe this is the third time he has kicked us in the jimmy. If I recall he was back and forth with us last year. I could be wrong.
 
orangencpolice said:
I may be wrong but I believe this is the third time he has kicked us in the jimmy. If I recall he was back and forth with us last year. I could be wrong.
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I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that relationships don’t really matter all that much to him. Is what it is. Kids like that will always be a challenge for us.
 
Chip said:
We lost a recruiting battle to Alabama.

I guess this is what rock bottom looks like.
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Listen, it's not like they have dominated us in our head to head recruiting battles. We still have two guys in this class that were offered by Alabama. Yes, they beat us for this kid but it's not like it's been any kind of trend.
 
tep624 said:
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that relationships don’t really matter all that much to him. Is what it is. Kids like that will always be a challenge for us.
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I’d rather have relationships centric kids … you saw why it mattered last night. UGA had a lions share of their players there vs FSU. I firmly believe the relationship kids will not only finish a season but stay away from the portal.
 
tep624 said:
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that relationships don’t really matter all that much to him. Is what it is. Kids like that will always be a challenge for us.
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I wish nothing bad on the kid, but I don’t see him being successful at Alabama. I hope I’m wrong and he prospers, but that is just my opinion. FWIW.
 
GoSU96 said:
That’s ridiculous
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Oh yea? How so?

It’s also funny that if you actually read the thread and just didn’t selectively take my post (Several other commented same thing) you would have noticed that my post was specifically to someone who said something along the lines of you’ll never play at Alabama you could have come to Cuse and started from day 1). So my question again. Why would we want someone who can never get on the field throughout their career at another school?
 
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