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OT: Friends of bullied SI teen who killed self say football players 'tortured her'

Orangemen said:
If a kid never faces any trouble in their life until they get bullied in high school, are they just completely unprepared mentally to handle it?

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In some cases it makes a difference but as I wrote above yesterday, what bullying has become is so much more dynamic and magnified. I don't even think it can be classified as bullying anymore. Bullying a long time ago was ganging up on a kid once in awhile, knocking his hat off in the hallway every time you saw him, and talking crap about his mom. Bullying today is more like extreme tormenting. For some of the kids that face really bad bullying, from the start of the day until the end of the day they are being mentally abused. Text messages, facebook messages, and then all of the other normal stuff. But with texting and FB now, it's not just a small group of bullies, they bring the entire school into it. Then all of the kids in school know, they all talk about it and post about it on facebook, on twitter, and random kids thinking it's just funny send text messages constantly. When we're talking about 12 years olds and 15 year olds; some of these kids just don't have the mental power to deal with being tormented all day long, 7 days a week. It breaks them. It's like the wife who's husband treats her like and talks down to her no matter what she does. Except these kids hear from 20+ kids, different kids on different days, everywhere they go and all day long. There is no escape and then they break.

LOL, didn't mean to write that much. Some of it I already said and others have said but I don't think some people quite understand because we have this idea of what bullying is because of what the word used to mean.
 
qdawgg said:
In some cases it makes a difference but as I wrote above yesterday, what bullying has become is so much more dynamic and magnified. I don't even think it can be classified as bullying anymore. Bullying a long time ago was ganging up on a kid once in awhile, knocking his hat off in the hallway every time you saw him, and talking crap about his mom. Bullying today it more like extreme tormenting. For some of the kids that face really bad bullying, from the start of the day until the end of the day they are being mentally abused. Text messages, facebook messages, and then all of the other normal stuff. But with texting and FB now, it's not just a small group of bullies, they bring the entire school into it. Then all of the kids in school know, they all talk about it and post about it on facebook, on twitter, and random kids thinking it's just funny send text messages constantly. When were talking about 12 years olds and 15 year olds; some of these kids just don't have the mental power to deal with being tormented all day long, 7 days a week. It breaks them. It's like the wife who's husband treats her like and talks down to her no matter what she does. Except these kids here from 20+ kids, different kids on different days, everywhere they go and all day long. There is no escape and then they break.

LOL, didn't mean to write that much. Some of it I already said and others have said but I don't think some people quite understand because we have this idea of what bullying is because of what the word used to mean.
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I completely agree with you. With today's technology it becomes a cyber mob mentality, where other kids join in just so can they be part of the crowd or keep the target off them. Also, it is much more than bullying, it has become abuse/torment/torture, which ever word you want use or all of the above!!
 
Whitey23 said:
Edwards' twitter feed is pretty eye opening. Sounds like he was close to the girl.

@GodsGiftGUS
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Multiple people on there say it wasn't the football team or bullying. I didn't actually read the article.. I'm pretty sick of these happenings.
 
Orangemen said:
Reminds me of an old Onion headline:
'Local a@@hole father doing a great job raising a@@hole kid'

There is definitely a lot of validity to that thought.
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You'd be surprised how many bullies don't even realize that that's what they're doing, literally torturing the target.
As someone mentioned, sometimes they join in to take attention away from themselves, other times its the-
"Well, this happened to me & I turned out pretty well- just toughen up..." attitude.
Nowadays its on a whole different level because of the technology- it's bullying on steroids.
 
qdawgg said:
In some cases it makes a difference but as I wrote above yesterday, what bullying has become is so much more dynamic and magnified. I don't even think it can be classified as bullying anymore. Bullying a long time ago was ganging up on a kid once in awhile, knocking his hat off in the hallway every time you saw him, and talking crap about his mom. Bullying today is more like extreme tormenting. For some of the kids that face really bad bullying, from the start of the day until the end of the day they are being mentally abused. Text messages, facebook messages, and then all of the other normal stuff. But with texting and FB now, it's not just a small group of bullies, they bring the entire school into it. Then all of the kids in school know, they all talk about it and post about it on facebook, on twitter, and random kids thinking it's just funny send text messages constantly. When we're talking about 12 years olds and 15 year olds; some of these kids just don't have the mental power to deal with being tormented all day long, 7 days a week. It breaks them. It's like the wife who's husband treats her like and talks down to her no matter what she does. Except these kids hear from 20+ kids, different kids on different days, everywhere they go and all day long. There is no escape and then they break.

LOL, didn't mean to write that much. Some of it I already said and others have said but I don't think some people quite understand because we have this idea of what bullying is because of what the word used to mean.
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I agree completely with this, and as a parent, it scares me to consider this happening to my kid.

I have no frame of reference as a parent dealing with something like this. This kind of thing was not possible when I was young.

Even if you take away their access to facebook, twitter, and text messages, like you say, everyone else in the school will still be sending those messages back and forth all day, and the kid being bullied will certainly find out about it. It must be all consuming at that age to know that is going on, and that it is essentially unstoppable once it gets going.
 
SteveC said:
Multiple people on there say it wasn't the football team or bullying. I didn't actually read the article.. I'm pretty sick of these happenings.
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For those of us without Twitter accounts...what does it say?
 
qdawgg said:
In some cases it makes a difference but as I wrote above yesterday, what bullying has become is so much more dynamic and magnified. I don't even think it can be classified as bullying anymore. Bullying a long time ago was ganging up on a kid once in awhile, knocking his hat off in the hallway every time you saw him, and talking crap about his mom. Bullying today is more like extreme tormenting. For some of the kids that face really bad bullying, from the start of the day until the end of the day they are being mentally abused. Text messages, facebook messages, and then all of the other normal stuff. But with texting and FB now, it's not just a small group of bullies, they bring the entire school into it. Then all of the kids in school know, they all talk about it and post about it on facebook, on twitter, and random kids thinking it's just funny send text messages constantly. When we're talking about 12 years olds and 15 year olds; some of these kids just don't have the mental power to deal with being tormented all day long, 7 days a week. It breaks them. It's like the wife who's husband treats her like and talks down to her no matter what she does. Except these kids hear from 20+ kids, different kids on different days, everywhere they go and all day long. There is no escape and then they break.
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Completely agree. I think this is why administrators need to be held accountable and then the parents brought in and warned and also held accountable.

NY needs to legislate this is some way like Massachusetts did.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/bulle/2010/04/bullies_beware.html
 
Capt Tuttle - my reply to your post, the first sentence was kind of d!ckish now that I read it again, sorry about that.
 
CuseLegacy said:
http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/10/two_students_removed_from_stat.html#incart_river

It appears the truth is starting to come out.
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Hopefully whatever the truth really is does come out. Whether there were any criminal events that happened or not, it sounds like there was a lot of poor judgement used by some kids. Very, very sad. Making proper decisions is all about growing up. Some people are able to make them at age 15 and some people are never able to make them.
 
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