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OT(?): Jury Awards Ped State Whistleblower $7 Mil.

Whitey23 said:
He didn't stop it when he saw it, he didn't go to police when no one else did and he continued coaching there knowing all this for an additional 9 years. this guy.
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Exactly. His "damages" came 9 years after ... Endless child rapes happened after his seeing it the first time. Every penny of that should go to child protection charities.
 
How many other Penn St coaches, staff saw, heard something over the decades yet didn't do nor say anything, even after the scandal was exposed? McQueary even after everything came out was still the only coach, staff member to come forward. Worse yet, no other football program D3, D2, FBS etc has given him a job. What's the message here? Either college football doesn't believe him or his exposing it is an unforgiveable black mark. Doubt it's encouraging for anyone in the future to step up, tell others and then testify. Easier to rip on someone admits hearing, seeing things than the many more who admit to nothing. Guess it's better to
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It’s time for other Penn State coaches to speak up about Jerry Sandusky
 
Cheriehoop said:
How many other Penn St coaches, staff saw, heard something over the decades yet didn't do nor say anything, even after the scandal was exposed? McQueary even after everything came out was still the only coach, staff member to come forward. Worse yet, no other football program D3, D2, FBS etc has given him a job. What's the message here? Either college football doesn't believe him or his exposing it is an unforgiveable black mark. Doubt it's encouraging for anyone in the future to step up, tell others and then testify. Easier to rip on someone admits hearing, seeing things than the many more who admit to nothing. Guess it's better to
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It’s time for other Penn State coaches to speak up about Jerry Sandusky
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or...maybe potential employers just dont want someone that would witness child rape and keep it to themselves for 9 years on their staff.
 
reedny said:
Not sure I get the Gricar reference, since Gricar was the ADA who DECLINED to prosecute Sandusky back in 1998. Maybe guilt over that decision was behind his decision to jump intothe Susquehanna.
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Or he was murdered so he wouldn't prosecute.
 
GoCuse14 said:
or...maybe potential employers just dont want someone that would witness child rape and keep it to themselves for 9 years on their staff.
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He didn't keep it to himself, he did tell Paterno, AD Curley and Vice president Shultz. Shultz as VP was head of campus police. (besides telling his father and a family friend, a doctor) He did that right away. He got a call after his meeting with Curley and Shultz from Shultz saying the situation would be taken care of it. Easy for us to say that he should have gone to the police.Obviously wasn't easy for anyone else. Sounds like it surely would have been better for not only him but also his family not to have said anything, right? Those people still have jobs, their names weren't dragged through the mud and they didn't face death threats etc.
 
Cheriehoop said:
He didn't keep it to himself, he did tell Paterno, AD Curley and Vice president Shultz. Shultz as VP was head of campus police. (besides telling his father and a family friend, a doctor) He did that right away. He got a call after his meeting with Curley and Shultz from Shultz saying the situation would be taken care of it. Easy for us to say that he should have gone to the police.Obviously wasn't easy for anyone else. Sounds like it surely was better for not only him but his family not to have said anything, right? They still have jobs, their names weren't dragged through the mud and they didn't face death threats etc.
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Or maybe he isn't a good coach? After he reported it to Penn State he got a promotion. He then served 7 years and never received another promotion. Also he never was able to obtain a job elsewhere. Then in year 8 of his new job Sandusky was arrested. He knew what was going on there and could have left anytime between 2002-2010 yet he chose to stay.
 
GoCuse14 said:
or...maybe potential employers just dont want someone that would witness child rape and keep it to themselves for 9 years on their staff.
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this
 
Cheriehoop said:
He didn't keep it to himself, he did tell Paterno, AD Curley and Vice president Shultz. Shultz as VP was head of campus police. (besides telling his father and a family friend, a doctor) He did that right away. He got a call after his meeting with Curley and Shultz from Shultz saying the situation would be taken care of it. Easy for us to say that he should have gone to the police.Obviously wasn't easy for anyone else. Sounds like it surely would have been better for not only him but also his family not to have said anything, right? Those people still have jobs, their names weren't dragged through the mud and they didn't face death threats etc.
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Yes and no. What he witnessed was as disgusting as it gets. He saw child rape first hand. This is one of those situations where we should demand more as a society.
 
jgeorge322 said:
Yes and no. What he witnessed was as disgusting as it gets. He saw child rape first hand. This is one of those situations where we should demand more as a society.
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Demand more yes, but had he beaten the crap out of Sandusky, I would have been fine with it, but people would have said he should have called the police instead of taking justice into his own hands.
 
Briancuse said:
Demand more yes, but had he beaten the crap out of Sandusky, I would have been fine with it, but people would have said he should have called the police instead of taking justice into his own hands.
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just to let you know, your post can be interpreted to mean that you'd be ok with him just kicking Sandusky's a** and leaving it at that without notifying authorities. I know that's not what you mean (at least I pray), but it is what you wrote.
 
HRE Otto IV said:
Or maybe he isn't a good coach? After he reported it to Penn State he got a promotion. He then served 7 years and never received another promotion. Also he never was able to obtain a job elsewhere. Then in year 8 of his new job Sandusky was arrested. He knew what was going on there and could have left anytime between 2002-2010 yet he chose to stay.
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I get what you're saying and I don't really disagree per se, but I do think it's a bit of an oversimplification. As others have pointed out the guy took the information to everyone who should have rightfully dealt with a miserable situation and they did nothing. Should he have quit, moved on, found his way onto 60 minutes ... yeah, I think that's fair. But I also think you have to have some empathy for a guy who knows the guys he's dealing with are not only powerful in of themselves, but are powerful far beyond the reaches of the campus AND, in Paterno's case, literally treated as deities throughout the state.

That is a much more difficult spot than simply reporting a terrible act to a group of people who, like all of us here, would be absolutely mortified and would drop everything we were doing to make sure this stuff stopped that day.
 
jgeorge322 said:
just to let you know, your post can be interpreted to mean that you'd be ok with him just kicking Sandusky's a** and leaving it at that without notifying authorities. I know that's not what you mean (at least I pray), but it is what you wrote.
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Obviously someone would notify the authorities.
 
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