For me it's the weather. The area would be perfectly fine if we didn't have winter for 6 months.
I'd take weather over no water and constant droughts any day. If everybody up there had to live out west for a few years, they'd have a brand new appreciation for "weather".For me it's the weather. The area would be perfectly fine if we didn't have winter for 6 months.
so now we are just down to weather? feeble.Nope I'll take a drought thanks. Don't have to shovel during a drought.
Just a great post. Needed more than a like.There are 13 potholes in my street between my house and the corner. There’s only ONE house between my house and the corner.
That said, I feel some type of way about some ex-Upstater or Canadian making jokes about my state to some bonehead mass audience!(yes, that’s a George Costanza quote). Only I can make fun of it.
And I will make fun of everyone else’s hurricanes, mudslides, earthquakes, excess heat, traffic jams, overexpensive houses, paying 3 G’s for a crappy studio apartment in a corny gentrified manbun neighborhood, stupid accents, stupid Mellow Mushroom restaurants, backwards schools, landlocked by 15 other states flat flyover states, etc. situations with brutal ruthlessness too. Don’t @ me.
There are 13 potholes in my street between my house and the corner. There’s only ONE house between my house and the corner.
That said, I feel some type of way about some ex-Upstater or Canadian making jokes about my state to some bonehead mass audience!(yes, that’s a George Costanza quote). Only I can make fun of it.
And I will make fun of everyone else’s hurricanes, mudslides, earthquakes, excess heat, traffic jams, overexpensive houses, paying 3 G’s for a crappy studio apartment in a corny gentrified manbun neighborhood, stupid accents, stupid Mellow Mushroom restaurants, backwards schools, landlocked by 15 other states flat flyover states, etc. situations with brutal ruthlessness too. Don’t @ me.
Just come to South Carolina.
Third worst roads in the USA.
Upstate New York has some of the best quality of life anyplace in the world. All it had ever needed is better marketing.
Super low taxes, much cheaper gas, no emissions tests for any vehicles required by the state, and so on...not to mention no salt, freezing/heaving of roads, etc. Greenville and the like just booming, construction everywhere. Tough dealng with those subjective "worst" roads.
Love upstate, love Colorado, and love the west coast. Love most of the NE in general. For me I don’t care for and would never live in the south or Midwest.
Yeah kind of feel the same way. I could probably do an NC or SC if I was close to one of the bigger cities. Really like some of the Chicago suburbs. But otherwise I feel pretty much the same. That said, I'm sure there are plenty of nice places in the MW. Southeast I can't stand ... even for work for a night or two.
I'm not into ranking places to live b/c I think everyone has different priorities but I don't really think it's a matter of marketing. I like upstate. I don't LOVE upstate, but maybe that's just me. I like, but don't LOVE DC too. But I left for two reasons -- jobs and weather. DC is no San Diego, weather-wise. We had a brutally wet spring last year and and really rainy year altogether the past couple years (this year has actually been beautiful, thus far). But the eight weeks or so from say mid-March to mid-May are just shockingly different. Every time I talk to my parents it's 38 and spitting rain (I know it's warmed up now) and I literally feel bad going, "oh, yeah, it's 66 and sunny, but I'm sure it will warm up soon!!" CNY in particular is really dark it seems like. Just feel like I get twice as many sunny days here for whatever reason.
And then jobs -- It seems like Buffalo and Rochester are doing better but for most college grads you're sent scurrying elsewhere to find jobs. That hurts in a lot of ways.
But, for me, I like upstate a lot, but I found myself dying laughing at that song. I really don't think people should derive too much value from where they live (especially when so many people would switch places with you in a heartbeat if they're stuck in some brutal section of a city in the US or some war-torn or drug cartel infested country in the rest of the world).
How dare you make fun of Florida Avenue, sir!! If it weren't for Florida ave I'd only have half as many speed camera tickets.Agree with you...except "Southeast" begins roughly at Florida Avenue NW from my perspective. Maybe farther north even. (Hey, this could be even more fun than one of those "CNY is in Upstate! No it isn't!" regional arguments.)
I like a lot of cultural aspects to cities in the Midwest, but I don't think I could live in a place that's so flat. Then again, I could never live in a place like western Pennsylvania that's so claustrophobically hilly. Seems that I'm a little picky.
In Syracuse unemployment is down, wages are up, overall participation int he job market is up, and 73% of the people moving into the city are millennials which is 3rd best in the nation. College grads are hardly being driven away. Your ideas about the job market here are outdated.
Weather is certainly subjective. But Syracuse is the snowiest major city in the country but not one if the 50 coldest or 50 windiest cities. We have lots of relatively warm days to play in all the snow we get, and the best snow removal of any city on earth, which to me is perfect.
I do think Spring is the worst weather we get here, but 9 of the 12 months of the year I'll take Syracuse's weather over DC's.
Nobody should derive value from where they live, but everybody should love where they live. It's too easy to move to not love where you live. I always say the best thing you learn in law school is where to live. Due to the bar exam you are forced to choose your state, so it only makes sense to choose your city too. I could have lived in any city in the country, and was actively recruited by law firms in several of them. I chose to live in Syracuse because I consider it to be THE best city in the world for me. I dont expect everybody to share my opinion about Syracuse or anything else, but most if the people who criticize have done a hell of a lot less research than I have about it, and are a hell of a lot less informed than I am about it, and I have no problem justifying my decision to move to Syracuse especially since its been such a great decision for me and my family.
That said, I feel some type of way about some ex-Upstater or Canadian making jokes about my state to some bonehead mass audience!(yes, that’s a George Costanza quote). Only I can make fun of it.
In Syracuse unemployment is down, wages are up, overall participation int he job market is up, and 73% of the people moving into the city are millennials which is 3rd best in the nation. College grads are hardly being driven away. Your ideas about the job market here are outdated.
Weather is certainly subjective. But Syracuse is the snowiest major city in the country but not one if the 50 coldest or 50 windiest cities. We have lots of relatively warm days to play in all the snow we get, and the best snow removal of any city on earth, which to me is perfect.
I do think Spring is the worst weather we get here, but 9 of the 12 months of the year I'll take Syracuse's weather over DC's.
Nobody should derive value from where they live, but everybody should love where they live. It's too easy to move to not love where you live. I always say the best thing you learn in law school is where to live. Due to the bar exam you are forced to choose your state, so it only makes sense to choose your city too. I could have lived in any city in the country, and was actively recruited by law firms in several of them. I chose to live in Syracuse because I consider it to be THE best city in the world for me. I dont expect everybody to share my opinion about Syracuse or anything else, but most if the people who criticize have done a hell of a lot less research than I have about it, and are a hell of a lot less informed than I am about it, and I have no problem justifying my decision to move to Syracuse especially since its been such a great decision for me and my family.
Problem is they don't know how to take care of the roads. Yes, there is good economy for the most part but the state legislature can only think about getting re-elected and that's why we have super low taxes with infrastructure that is horrible and no money to fix it.Super low taxes, much cheaper gas, no emissions tests for any vehicles required by the state, and so on...not to mention no salt, freezing/heaving of roads, etc. Greenville and the like just booming, construction everywhere. Tough dealng with those subjective "worst" roads.
so basically you have disqualified yourself from having any meaningful contribution on this topicI like this post, but I actually kinda feel the opposite. I think it's always funny when people make fun of where I'm living or used to live b/c most of the time it's actually pretty true. Especially since a lot of people who make fun of it live somewhere else and couldn't fathom living where you live. I don't know -- it's basically just a place that works for you to live and ultimately there are good things and bad things about just about everywhere.
My buddies from NJ and NYC in college used to constantly rail on upstate NY and I would mercilessly make fun of NJ (I actually love NY, though I'm not into living there). It always seemed pretty funny.
I may have also said at some point that the biggest upside of climate change is that maybe it will wash away the southeast portion of the country. I kid, I kid.
so basically you have disqualified yourself from having any meaningful contribution on this topic
I think the skeptics here would say that means only 4 people moved to Syracuse last year and 3 of them were millenials. Or maybe it's a zero-sum movement of people from the burbs to the city limits as another poster speculated. The most objective stat is net population +/- for specific demographics, and I haven't seen those metrics paint Syracuse in a favorable light... yet.In Syracuse unemployment is down, wages are up, overall participation int he job market is up, and 73% of the people moving into the city are millennials which is 3rd best in the nation. College grads are hardly being driven away. Your ideas about the job market here are outdated.
For people who ski, maybe. And kids love snow, so there's that. Spring is under-appreciated. I think people just get impatient and want to get outdoors to do stuff. And it seems that springs have lately been cooler and wetter which doesn't help.I do think Spring is the worst weather we get here, but 9 of the 12 months of the year I'll take Syracuse's weather over DC's.
Winter would be perfectly fine if Syracuse basketball could get back to being Syracuse basketball.For me it's the weather. The area would be perfectly fine if we didn't have winter for 6 months.
Problem is they don't know how to take care of the roads. Yes, there is good economy for the most part but the state legislature can only think about getting re-elected and that's why we have super low taxes with infrastructure that is horrible and no money to fix it.
Believe me when I tell you it's not a subjective statement when I say our roads and bridges are some of the worst.
It will take a bridge collapsing like there was on the thruway 30 years ago before they'll do anything to improve the situation.