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Message: [QUOTE="44cuse, post: 160936, member: 693"] That Pistons stat is a great stat. I knew the game had slowed (which I believe is best measured by possessions..but I know some disagree) but had no idea that Piston stat. That's pretty amazing actually. Not that we will ever know, but I guess my view is that if it were just Duncan, they wouldn't have been 5-16 against the Spurs having not won a single series. When I combine that with what I see on the Knicks, just feels more like that system won't win a championship. AND...full disclosure...I didn't believe this prior to him going to the Knicks (at least not as much as I do now). I also watch a ton of Warrior games so I get to see the only other team at least trying to play that style for the least 8 years and they fail miserable as well. And totally agree on Kobe. With him on that team, they win 2 Championships. 44cuse [/QUOTE]