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Message: [QUOTE="two3zone, post: 2160011, member: 3651"] I've learned over the course of my years that when you say "It can't be any worse", it can get worse. We're still losing Lydon from the zone who was pretty good in it, who coming in has played this defense? Nobody knows how these new guys are going to fair on the defensive end and more often than not, freshman and first year players are not great in the zone, we've seen it over and over and over, I don't know what is different about this class. Even if the defense slightly improves you're still missing out on production from Gillon, Lydon, White, DC, and Roberson this year. Two of the three offered nothing, but the other three offered a lot. People were saying we wouldn't feel the losses of Cooney and G last year when I mentioned that, we really felt it and felt it bad. I'd be shocked if this team is able to be .500 as it sits now. [/QUOTE]