Rocco
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What his interview at 4 am at the AD's house?
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What his interview at 4 am at the AD's house?
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Penn State and Michigan are no strangers to NJ. Wisconsin was a player in NJ but pulled up stakes several years ago and will likely come back now. Whatever benefit is to be realized by them getting exposure to NJ should be offset by us leveling the playing field from a conference perspective. They can no longer recruit against the Big East membership. Michigan will still sell tradition and the Big House, but they always have.
What this will more than likely do is make it that much harder for schools like Syracuse and BC or any other OOC school to land the NJ blue chip kids. In other words if Penn State, Michigan, Wisconsin and Rutgers are in a NJ kids head about playing in Big Ten venues and selling the exposure they will get on TV (in NJ/NYC) and the absurd Bowl Lineup, it will make it harder for OOC schools to be successful.
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Not a recruiting nut but whatever. I know for a fact Maryland is losing kids in various sports left right and center because they don't want to go to Iowa and Michigan and Wisconsin, etc. A kid can go to RU and get the wrong eng of a steamroller from some of these Big 10 schools or stay within reasonable drives to a conference with great schools, sports programs and tradition.
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Their job in Florida wouldn't seem to be any easier. I'm sure I'll be provided data on how Florida kids prefer games in the midwest over anything in the southeast region.
They can always schedule teams OOC, but given the new landscape of college football, it doesn't seem like scheduling a game against USF or UCF here or there will be all that appealing.
I guess I should get ready to feel this way about our own recruiting, if this week is a we're going to the Big 10 week.
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Boston College will not win the "staying within reasonable drives to conference games" sales pitch with a NJ recruit very often. For starters, go to Rutgers and you get seven games a year in state. Then, consider Maryland and Penn State are both closer to Rutgers than BC is to its closest neighbor, Syracuse. Heck, a NJ family can get out to Columbus, Ohio or Ann Arbor, Michigan quicker than it would take a Boston group to get to UVA or Tech (its next closest neighbors).
As for "great schools, sports programs, and tradition" I'll put the B1G up against any conference.
BC will have an uphill climb in NJ.
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Having been to both places, give me 7 games in Boston over your yard any day. And give me a BC education over RU everyday.
It' a solid conference that is getting watered down.
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Problem is BC is a better school than any of those schools you mentioned and a much better weekend trip. Not to mention a jesuit university that some parents would like for their kids to have if they have been in catholic highschool program.
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Well then you better make that your pitch Bayside because your first strategy of selling proximity to conference mates, tradition, and quality sports teams is a loser.
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So what if they've offered some NJ kids and not landed them. The same is probably true for kids he's offered in PA and MD. Fact is it's hard to get kids to travel a long ways from home. Golden has recruited just fine at Miami - especially considering the impending sanctions.
Rivals rates their classes:
2012 - #9
2011 - #36
2010 - #16
2009 - #15
2008 - #5
If he were back in the Northeast he'd certainly recruit NJ harder than he is now and based on his past history, he'll be successful there. He'd certainly get BC back into the Northern NJ homes.
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Phat, you and I could recruit for Miami in Dade County. That said, Golden can recruit, I realize that.
As for Golden recruiting NJ for BC, I think he would find things quite a bit different then they were when he was recruiting the snot out of NJ for UVA. The main difference is Rutgers. The State U was not an option for the best players in the state at that point. Heck even the B-list players weren't an option for Rutgers. We had just finished the worst stretch of any BCS program EVER under Terry Shea and Schiano was trying to put together a team that would eventually be built on the shoulders of two kids from NY, not NJ.
Now the culture in NJ is much different than it was in 2001. Rutgers is a major player for the states top talent and that includes those kids who came through the Catholic school powerhouses. On top of that, recruiting juggernauts such as Notre Dame, Michigan, Penn State, Ohio State and North Carolina have never left NJ.
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Maryland is going to be road kill in the B1G. Your hoops I assume will still be terrible, and you just came as close as you will ever get to a BCS game. So playing out the game is fine by me.
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I'll let Maryland worry about Maryland.
As for Rutgers hoops, we are probably at least 60MM away from being competitive. If there is a BCS hoops team with worse facilities, I haven't seen it. The RAC is fugly, it is almost impossibly outdated and there is no practice facility. Rutgers can't compete with any ACC, B1G or Big East teams with our current set up.
