True but he will take 4 years and is a maybe.Most centers take a year or 2 to develop.
True but he will take 4 years and is a maybe.Most centers take a year or 2 to develop.
Recently back from a Toto concert. Africa is their closing act.do you like their "Africa" version? it brought the Toto song back to the forefront, both versions became popular with millenials.
Not sure there is such a thing as less than nothing. He seems quick and he runs well, and he showed the ability to make some limited offensive moves in the post. He is not a fit right now for the Orange - that much seems clear. I have always been a fan of late bloomers of which he seems one, so I will see how he does moving forward.What has he done to show he can play at this level? He went through two years here and has shown less than nothing. Guess I just don’t get it.
For sure. I think the basketball skill is there, but it’s not useful at this level if you’re weaker than every big we play. I think he would be a very good player at this level, if he bulked up. That we have seen very little visible progress since he arrived. Whether it’s something with his genes that is preventing him from getting results or he’s just not putting in the work in the gym and his eating. If it’s not the genes and it’s the effort that he’ll put in at his next place to bulk up, I do think he will be a power 5 contributor for us or someone else in a few years.Anything is possible. Maybe Peter has a Bobby Lazor type situation and flourishes somewhere else. But after 10 years of mediocrity and 3 years of not making the tournament, we can't take the risk.
I think we are a better program than to have a power 5 contributor after 4/5 years. We should be getting guys who project to the NBA or close each year playing in at least 4 positions with backups or transfers taking their place each year. Maybe it’s been bad luck or bad recruiting the last three years. Worst case we should be a tourney team each year with a chance to make a run. We should not be out recruited by the Big East teams and should be on par with UCONN, IMO. Maybe the expectation is too high but we are a blue blood program and lead the country in attendence.For sure. I think the basketball skill is there, but it’s not useful at this level if you’re weaker than every big we play. I think he would be a very good player at this level, if he bulked up. That we have seen very little visible progress since he arrived. Whether it’s something with his genes that is preventing him from getting results or he’s just not putting in the work in the gym and his eating. Either way, if it’s not the genes and it’s the effort that he’ll put in at his next place to bulk up, I do think he will be a power 5 contributor for us or someone else in a few years.
Honestly have no idea why anyone would consider the Cuse a blue blood. That’s not rational thinking. We’re the program people think of when talking about the bubble. That’s not blue blood territory. It’s just not.I think we are a better program than to have a power 5 contributor after 4/5 years. We should be getting guys who project to the NBA or close each year playing in at least 4 positions with backups or transfers taking their place each year. Maybe it’s been bad luck or bad recruiting the last three years. Worst case we should be a tourney team each year with a chance to make a run. We should not be out recruited by the Big East teams and should be on par with UCONN, IMO. Maybe the expectation is too high but we are a blue blood program and lead the country in attendence.
It used to be.Honestly have no idea why anyone would consider the Cuse a blue blood. That’s not rational thinking. We’re the program people think of when talking about the bubble. That’s not blue blood territory. It’s just not.
eh depends on who you askHonestly have no idea why anyone would consider the Cuse a blue blood. That’s not rational thinking. We’re the program people think of when talking about the bubble. That’s not blue blood territory. It’s just not.
I enjoyed that entire cover albumdo you like their "Africa" version? it brought the Toto song back to the forefront, both versions became popular with millenials.
You mean if you ask someone who doesn’t live in the 315 area code?eh depends on who you ask
Maybe. But it’s been a couple decades at best.It used to be.
We were never considered a blue blood, but your post said nowhere near blue blood territory. I would argue we were always in the "just below Blue Blood" category until the last ten years or so.Maybe. But it’s been a couple decades at best.
One championship! How many other blue bloods only have one?
Those considered blue blood programs have changed and are still changing, only about 4 or 5 are still consistent blue bloods.We were never considered a blue blood, but your post said nowhere near blue blood territory. I would argue we were always in the "just below Blue Blood" category until the last ten years or so.
Are Michigan and UCLA Blue Bloods? Is Louisville was UCONN the last 20 years? We lead the country in attendence and NBA greats and elite record?Honestly have no idea why anyone would consider the Cuse a blue blood. That’s not rational thinking. We’re the program people think of when talking about the bubble. That’s not blue blood territory. I
Some posters think because we are SU and recruit somebody, that player is automatically destined to be a good player. They don't realize our recruiting has visibly declined where our prospects have the body of 15 year old JV players. It's orange colored glasses.What has he done to show he can play at this level? He went through two years here and has shown less than nothing. Guess I just don’t get it.
It really depends on your definition. On most lists of all-time best college programs, we're usually like #9 or #10 which is fair. We're not Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA (or UConn if they win another one), we're on the next tier with like Louisville and Arizona. We're a Torquise Blood.Honestly have no idea why anyone would consider the Cuse a blue blood. That’s not rational thinking. We’re the program people think of when talking about the bubble. That’s not blue blood territory. It’s just not.
UCLA isn’t UCLA, Kentucky hasn’t been Kentucky, same with Louisville, Nova, Arizona, us etc. The list of consistent blue bloods right now is getting smaller and changing.It really depends on your definition. On most lists of all-time best college programs, we're usually like #9 or #10 which is fair. We're not Duke, UNC, Kansas, Kentucky, UCLA (or UConn if they win another one), we're on the next tier with like Louisville and Arizona. We're a Torquise Blood.
I meant now.We were never considered a blue blood, but your post said nowhere near blue blood territory. I would argue we were always in the "just below Blue Blood" category until the last ten years or so.
UCLA was in the Final Four two years ago. Nova has two titles in the last eight years. Tommy Lloyd has Arizona back among the best programs in the country.UCLA isn’t UCLA, Kentucky hasn’t been Kentucky, same with Louisville, Nova, Arizona, us etc. The list of consistent blue bloods right now is getting smaller and changing.
Elite athleticism? He can barely walk.I've been a Carey proponent, due to his elite athleticism. Figured it would take time for him to be able to show what he could do, given that his playing time was limited even his last two years of high school.
That said, I was very disappointed with his season this past year. I don't fault him for the injuries / concussion -- that's out of his control. But when he DID play, he failed to register much of an impact. And this was on a team that was desperate for depth / contributions from a reserve big.
He is such as stud athlete, despite being skinny I'm really surprised that he couldn't make a mark as a shot blocker, etc. But he seemed to struggle in all phases.
Given the above, I think it is a good decision to move on. I could see him carving out a bigger role and being a big contributor elsewhere, but probably for the best.