Class of 2025 PF Francis Folefac (MD) Portal from Siena

[Cusefan0307]

I’ve never seen so many people care about a backup this much ever.

 

[shu 49]

who do you want to spend the money on, Folefac or Freeman? Only so much juice in the Orange

Folefac

 

[CuseCO]

The expectations on the Siena kids are way too high across the board.

If we get this kid specifically, he should barely be playing for us unless we’re in a tough spot.

Also, people are worrying about exact positions way too much when it comes to anything outside lead guard and center.

Center and lead guard are significantly in peril at this moment, imo. But we have time still.

Folefac wants to come here? Fine. The MAAC was like the 25th ranked conference. It’s worlds away.

I was stoked at how GMac started both with his staff and roster. And still think he’ll close well, but we aren’t there yet. Folefac isn’t changing our outlook one way or another.

Doty had an offer from Illinois.
Folefac getting looks from Rutgers and GTech to start.

Why are we over-valuing the Siena guys when the rest of the country is looking at the as possible starters?

 

[shu 49]

He also plays a position where we have someone in front of him. He is in my opinion, a luxury. Center is a position of dire need.

I don’t disagree there

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Doty had an offer from Illinois.
Folefac getting looks from Rutgers and GTech to start.

Why are we over-valuing the Siena guys when the rest of the country is looking at the as possible starters?

None of this is real until it is.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

If he was a couple inches taller a lot of folks would think differently than they currently do. The idea of a 6'7 center is completely foreign to some, despite the bulldog frame, so they can't fathom him getting minutes at both the 4 and 5. We need some muscle on the roster to not get bullied, we're currently long but lean. He could/would realistically get 20/25 mins per game for us and guard up or down as needed.

I don’t want a 6’7” guy playing center. I don’t care how beefy he is. The shortest I can recall SU going at center during my Cuse fandom was Andre Hawkins at 6’8”. That was over 40 years ago. Back up PF, fine.

 

[Red Holzman]

I can see a strategy that top priority is a starting center, and that Folefac remains on back burner until that's resolved and available NIL known.

 

[tptcuse]

Doty had an offer from Illinois.
Folefac getting looks from Rutgers and GTech to start.

Why are we over-valuing the Siena guys when the rest of the country is looking at the as possible starters?

Rutgers and Georgia Tech are the rest of the country? And we know he would start at those schools?

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Yeah, “getting looks” from those teams doesn't necessarily equate to they’re looking at him to start.

 

[CuseCO]

Rutgers and Georgia Tech are the rest of the country? And we know he would start at those schools?

If Gavin Doty saw an open market, he is getting offers from all over the country.

Its been reported in here both had offers to start at other P4s.

 

[tptcuse]

If Gavin Doty saw an open market, he is getting offers from all over the country.

It’s been reported in here both had offers to start at other P4s.

I was responding to the post about Folefac

 

[Irishsecra1]

I think many are undervaluing Folefac because he came from Siena and was originally a no star.
Yet this freshman is the same guy who more than held his own in games against Duke and Indiana.
And according to both GMAC and Ben Lee was the best defender on the team.
He was the guy assigned to guard MAAC player of the year and PG Kennedy in the championship game. Just signed by Wake Forest to be their starting point guard.

I agree we need a starting center but I can not say I am all that sold on Freeman.
Seems like a me first player, maybe many are, but not sure I want that guy to be our highest paid player.
Plus had had injury issues.
I just don’t like waiting for this kid and let other potential players, like Folefac, twist in the wind waiting for him to choose our orange rose.
How long is too long to wait for Freeman?

 

[sufan59]

I think many are undervaluing Folefac because he came from Siena and was originally a no star.
Yet this freshman is the same guy who more than held his own in games against Duke and Indiana.
And according to both GMAC and Ben Lee was the best defender on the team.
He was the guy assigned to guard MAAC player of the year and PG Kennedy in the championship game. Just signed by Wake Forest to be their starting point guard.

I agree we need a starting center but I can not say I am all that sold on Freeman.
Seems like a me first player, maybe many are, but not sure I want that guy to be our highest paid player.
Plus had had injury issues.
I just don’t like waiting for this kid and let other potential players, like Folefac, twist in the wind waiting for him to choose our orange rose.
How long is too long to wait for Freeman?

I want to land both. If I knew of the other option at center and did research on that person maybe that will change on whether Freeman is a must get. But right now, it appears that we need to land him or we are taking on a big risk in that area next season.

 

[GHLF]

Folefac

OK, so in line with a professional organization with a more than reasonable budget, all of which must have budgetary constraints, right? Do you go after the secondary, ancillary piece albeit we believe very good or a primary indicated cog from a positional standpoint. If you have to make a choice which one given above considerations must you choose? Clear in my opinion. Hopefully both however upon choosing if you have to which one carries higher precedence

 

[SUFaninNJ]

I think many are undervaluing Folefac because he came from Siena and was originally a no star.
Yet this freshman is the same guy who more than held his own in games against Duke and Indiana.
And according to both GMAC and Ben Lee was the best defender on the team.
He was the guy assigned to guard MAAC player of the year and PG Kennedy in the championship game. Just signed by Wake Forest to be their starting point guard.

I agree we need a starting center but I can not say I am all that sold on Freeman.
Seems like a me first player, maybe many are, but not sure I want that guy to be our highest paid player.
Plus had had injury issues.
I just don’t like waiting for this kid and let other potential players, like Folefac, twist in the wind waiting for him to choose our orange rose.
How long is too long to wait for Freeman?

Why do you think it’s one or the other? They play different positions. I’m hoping SU still has money for a starting center, starting point guard and a back up forward. Who knows how much money is left in the coffers?

 

[MikeSU02]

Doty had an offer from Illinois.
Folefac getting looks from Rutgers and GTech to start.

Why are we over-valuing the Siena guys when the rest of the country is looking at the as possible starters?

“Rest of the country” is doing some heavy lifting there.

Especially when getting looks doesn’t mean anything outside of diligence from all of a few teams.

Also, can you please cite the news story with the committable offer from Illinois?

 

[721Comstock]

I don’t want a 6’7” guy playing center. I don’t care how beefy he is. The shortest I can recall SU going at center during my Cuse fandom was Andre Hawkins at 6’8”. That was over 40 years ago. Back up PF, fine.

LOL. We just had this this past year.
That’s prolly how tall Will Kyle is IRL.

Otis Hill was listed at 6’8”, which means he was prolly closer to 6’6”.

There’s no way Folefac should start at the 5.
That said, he’s bulky, agile, and long enough to play some backup minutes there, along w the 4.

 

[CuseCO]

“Rest of the country” is doing some heavy lifting there.

Especially when getting looks doesn’t mean anything outside of diligence from all of a few teams.

Also, can you please cite the news story with the committable offer from Illinois?

I dont have a news story. These were rumors on this site.

I agree my statement about the rest of the country is a bit hyperbole, but we have seen rumors on this site of a huge offer to Doty from a Final 4 team and Folefac getting looks at being a starter.

I am an evidence based guy. This is a message board. Lot of this is speculation.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

LOL. We just had this this past year.
That’s prolly how tall Will Kyle is IRL.

Otis Hill was listed at 6’8”, which means he was prolly closer to 6’6”.

There’s no way Folefac should start at the 5.
That said, he’s bulky, agile, and long enough to play some backup minutes there, along w the 4.

Does this mean that since Folefac is listed at 6’7” that he’s really 6’5”?

 

[23Zone]

Does this mean that since Folefac is listed at 6’7” that he’s really 6’5”?

In shoes lol

 

[tptcuse]

LOL. We just had this this past year.
That’s prolly how tall Will Kyle is IRL.

Otis Hill was listed at 6’8”, which means he was prolly closer to 6’6”.

There’s no way Folefac should start at the 5.
That said, he’s bulky, agile, and long enough to play some backup minutes there, along w the 4.

Can Folefac jump like William Kyle? Also, our record with William Kyle wasn’t what we’re aspiring to next season. At least I hope it’s not

 

[23Zone]

Can Folefac jump like William Kyle? Also, our record with William Kyle wasn’t what we’re aspiring to next season. At least I hope it’s not

Not sure if he can jump as high but he sure as heck can shoot free throws shots better with a much better form.

 

[721Comstock]

Can Folefac jump like William Kyle? Also, our record with William Kyle wasn’t what we’re aspiring to next season. At least I hope it’s not

I’d say - and you’d likely agree -
that Will Kyle was NOT the reason we didn’t win more games.

He and Kingz were far and away our 2 best players this past season.

Anyhoo - here’s hoping we land a few more impact transfer dudes, and pronto.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I’ve never seen so many people care about a backup this much ever.

I don’t remember seeing so many internal ‘fights’ at any point in a preseason. Just shows that there is a big pile of chips on the table, we’re at a precipitous moment in our timeline, we’re coming off a cluster of angst-riddled years, and going into one with some promise and still a lot of doubt. Stakes are high. Emotions are high, even after a period of numbness. As Kelly Kapur would say, “I feel weird.”

 

[CA Monk]

Fun fact for Francis Folefac: His Final Four features riff-raff - FDU, FSU, WF and FU (Florida University)