Class of 2023 PF Ibrahim Souare (Guinea / AZ) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (4/6/25)

[Idiocuse22&]

Ibrahims portal rank is #1258 with a Nil value of 10k. I wonder how much we gave him and I believe his potential and future rank will far exceed his current rank.

 

[bnoro]

Ibrahims portal rank is #1258 with a Nil value of 10k. I wonder how much we gave him and I believe his potential and future rank will far exceed his current rank.

Based on?

These are just made up numbers. Especially if it was a package deal with George.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

my expectations are not high - i just want a center...that can cover 7 footers, protect the rim and can score at a reasonable clip when fed the ball in the post. ...you know, like the basic requirements of the position

im not even saying they need to be some all-acc or all-american etc avg 20 and 10

just a replacement level center that like every single other team in the NCAA seems to have...heck teams like Colgate and Cornell and va tech and the like seem to have these guys every time we play them...

why are you guys as fans co-signing on accepting very sub-par options as if its all that we can hope for?

this is the 7th winningest program in NCAA history...but you guys are acting like this is Boston College or something

(btw, without checking, BC probably has better centers than us fwiw, they usually do)

how am i supposed to know ? im not privvy to the private discussions between players and the staff.

i didnt even watch the ncaa bb this year other than some syr games...i dont know specific players...

what i do know is that almost every single team we play has the type of center i would like to have for the orange...sooo many times i have watched games, even against low major teams...and thought why cant SU get a center like that? am I alone?

Your accusation was that SU wasn’t getting the guys that they could get. You ought to be able to back that up

 

[kcsu]

If you are saying a 5-10 kid with a long wingspan than sure. Otherwise 6-6 and up kids who can play bigger because of being longer is absolutely a factor especially on defense and there isn’t really a counter argument to that unless they simply can’t play. We have seen it many times on JBs good zone teams and it’s very prevalent today in that it makes a difference.

Rim protection, getting into passing lanes and close outs all are impacted by physical factors like wingspan even more than very marginal height figures.

6-9 vs 6-11 can be quickly nullified by such factors as length and athleticism.

Your head means zero. It's wing span

 

[dasher]

Where were all the 6-10 kids on Houston? They had one kid that was 6-11 and he didn't play. It seemed their 6'9 kids did just fine this year. To think that you can't win with 6-9 kids in the pivot is silly. You can and teams do. Now, will our 6-9 kids be able to do the job? That is a fair question.

 

[Idiocuse22&]

Based on?

These are just made up numbers. Especially if it was a package deal with George.

Based on some website that has pretty much no clue and spews out jibberish. Im thinking they base it on how well they were recruited and stats in college. Very basic surface level stuff, yet something.

I realize that, I guess I am just curious what these guys are getting...And I am optimistic that IS will prove to be better than bottom tier portal guy.
I am also interested in stuff like this...how these players progress, succeed or fail and look back at how they fared against projections.
There is no historical data on these specifics so Ill be paying some attention...That is all.

 

[Oakland]

Some topics in this thread:

And 40 other threads.

 

[Chicago44s]

 

[orangepassion]

Every shot was a dunk or layup. He did have a bunch of nice blocks.

 

[hoopsupstate]

He plays hard and within himself. He and Kyle will make a good tandem.

 

[Niastri]

I was thinking about why they are content with Souare as our primary backup at center. He reportedly (link below) tested with a 33” inch vertical and a 8’11” standing reach. These measurements were taken at a Basketball Without Borders event in 2023. There’s a nontrivial chance he’s grown slightly since then. He has definitely put on a ton of weight.

This very high standing reach allows Souare an NBA center’s ability to challenge shots. Ideally it has a rebounding effect as well. Long arms and fast twitch muscle also help on defense in general, and helped allow Souare, despite his comparative lack of basketball experience, to be a positive defender for Georgia Tech. His length and leaping ability also should make him a great finisher at the rim, which seems to be a priority for recruiting this cycle.

If you squint a little, Kyle, Souare, and Sadiq White are all similar players, based on physical attributes.

Tall, athletic, long limbed players who have yet to really produce and therefore become expensive might be a market inefficiency that Kline and his team identified.

Ibrahim Souare - NBADraft.net

www.nbadraft.net

 

[Zelda Zonk]

I was thinking about why they are content with Souare as our primary backup at center. He reportedly (link below) tested with a 33” inch vertical and a 8’11” standing reach. These measurements were taken at a Basketball Without Borders event in 2023. There’s a nontrivial chance he’s grown slightly since then. He has definitely put on a ton of weight.

This very high standing reach allows Souare an NBA center’s ability to challenge shots. Ideally it has a rebounding effect as well. Long arms and fast twitch muscle also help on defense in general, and helped allow Souare, despite his comparative lack of basketball experience, to be a positive defender for Georgia Tech. His length and leaping ability also should make him a great finisher at the rim, which seems to be a priority for recruiting this cycle.

If you squint a little, Kyle, Souare, and Sadiq White are all similar players, based on physical attributes.

Tall, athletic, long limbed players who have yet to really produce and therefore become expensive might be a market inefficiency that Kline and his team identified.

Ibrahim Souare - NBADraft.net

www.nbadraft.net

The problem with relying on physical measurement is that it ignores technique. I'm thinking specifically of a play late in this last season, where Naheem was defending in the paint, had excellent position and posturing, hands up... and the offensive center just put a shoulder into his chest, knocked him back, and then converted pretty easily at the rim.

Standing reach is good. Vertical is good. Those two things are great for reactive defense. Those two things, if you are getting bodied out of position and/or just have bad technique, are moot.

And we still have a former point guard, who never experienced post defense, coaching post defense. I hope our staff is still learning. I loved the recent-ish report that Pitino tasked his staff with going out and bringing back a drill to use with his next team. I would hope/expect that's a normal thing—you want your staff looking outward for new ways to improve. I hope, as well, we can get the same from each of our players—both drills, and even offensive plays. Everyone should be learning.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[McCuse]

He doesn't look skinny in that pic!

 

[OrangeXtreme]