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We’re in good hands then if he can fill his shoes.That's his comparable, to me.
We’re in good hands then if he can fill his shoes.That's his comparable, to me.
Sadly, we aren’t relevant either and I wouldn’t think we’re a tourney team as currently constructed. We’re certainly much much closer to Georgia than we are UConn, Duke, Kansas etcI know it’s not relevant. Neither is UGa. We should be comparing our roster to possible tourney teams.
And we didn’t make the tournament with Gillon. This kid is worse.That's his comparable, to me.
Not only are the results of every game a referendum on the state of the program, now the results of every recruiting battle are too!Seems like this recruitment has people thinking this program is done for.
I’m looking at it as a whole. Killing it in the portal is job one and this isn’t going well so far. We aren’t recruiting anywhere near where we should be. Freeman is a stud. All the portal kids are more Georgia level than duke level.Not only are the results of every game a referendum on the state of the program, now the results of every recruiting battle are too!
What does killing it in the portal look like?I’m looking at it as a whole. Killing it in the portal is job one and this isn’t going well so far. We aren’t recruiting anywhere near where we should be. Freeman is a stud. All the portal kids are more Georgia level than duke level.
I think some people aren’t going to be happy no matter who we get.What does killing it in the portal look like?
Sincere question.
Winning won't change that, NIL will.I’m most disappointed by the fact we aren’t even remotely involved in the best portal players. It stinks that UCONN grabs a five star player and probably the best shooter in the portal. I’m not saying our pickups are bad, but the perception is we’re just an afterthought for the better players. Winning can change that, but the perception is still not great.
Only had 3 top 10 wins, and was widely considered a huge snub. We would be lucky to have Gillon type again instead of ball hogsAnd we didn’t make the tournament with Gillon. This kid is worse.
It needs to be repeated though so I'll say it too. Piece or two away. Sure the PG is a major piece but the 2-5 are settled with a McD's 4, a bloodied tournament experienced guy at 5, and Mr 9-9 at NC State Bell & JJ at the 2.I’m saying we are a player or two away from the roster we need to be a much better team. We lost one of those players to an inferior roster by comparison. Comparing Hofstra isn’t really a relevant point.
It’s huge we find that player still no doubt but the sentiment seems to be we are a mess as things stand right now vs still just needing that final piece or two. I’m beating this point into the ground I realize that and said my peace - don’t mean to be on repeat.
I liked Leffew and am bummed we lost our #2 target (assuming Reynolds was 1). Let’s see how resourceful Red and team are given it’s one major piece left and a role player end of bench guy to put us in a good spot.
How can we have the NIL infrastructure in place to bring in the best recruit we've had since Melo at the 4 and Lampkin a top Portal Tourney experienced guy at the 5 without issue but 3 weeks later the NIL house is burning down when 1 target decides to go to his home state and play with his old teammate?Winning won't change that, NIL will.
The structural concern that the Leffew recruitment has exposed is that we are behind on NIL. Maybe Georgia "overpaid" (whatever that means) but the fact that we couldn't land this tier 2 kid while offering a starting spot with his former coach on staff is a tough pill to swallow.
I don't know why we are behind on NIL. My suspicion is that we don't have the infrastructure in place because an 80 year old coach who didn't even believe in NIL was leading our program up until last year. Everything else about our program - fanbase size, rich alums, history, etc. - indicates we should be a top 20-30 NIL basketball school. Until we figure that out our staff will be working with one hand tied behind their back, but in this new transfer era, it's also part of their responsibility to find solutions.
Great points. Getting a Top 10 all American and future first round draft pick like Donnie doesn’t come cheap in today’s landscape. And a guy like Lampkin doesn’t come cheap either.How can we have the NIL infrastructure in place to bring in the best recruit we've had since Melo at the 4 and Lampkin a top Portal Tourney experienced guy at the 5 without issue but 3 weeks later the NIL house is burning down when 1 target decides to go to his home state and play with his old teammate?
It's OK. Wildhack will get it right next time.I’m looking at it as a whole. Killing it in the portal is job one and this isn’t going well so far. We aren’t recruiting anywhere near where we should be. Freeman is a stud. All the portal kids are more Georgia level than duke level.
If Chance is healthy can he play the pointThe no tourney is the one that bothers me. I think we will have a balanced team. Not one relying on Freeman. As long as we get a pt guard. If not, all bets are off.
IF Chance is healthy can he play the point
I think that if Jim had remained coach that most of those players would have left. Red was the reason many of them were retained which supports the theory that he was the " good cop"I’m saying it was a mess this year and these kids weren’t this bad last year. Never heard a peep and if they were this bad last year I doubt Red brings them all back this year. But this discussion took place previously and I said the same thing. I also said why I thought it happened and it wasn’t Reds fault. I think some players took advantage of Red going from good cop to bad cop and we didn’t have the upperclass leadership to keep things reigned in. Of course the injuries were nobodies fault and just bad luck.
Spot on.I knew he was looking for a bigger bag a couple weeks ago.
Glad we got the real PG while we could.
Now, let's hope Westry is healthy, and let's go get a PF.
You really think Carlos can match Gillon's production? I hope so, but tend to doubt it. Gillon was a solid guard for us. If Carlos can produce anything similar to Gillon, I'd be VERY happy. Hell, he shot 42% from 3, 86% FT, and had over 5 assists per game with 2 turnovers.That's his comparable, to me.
And it would be a crime to waste Donnie's one season here but not providing him with a very good PG and possibly missing the tournament.Great points. Getting a Top 10 all American and future first round draft pick like Donnie doesn’t come cheap in today’s landscape. And a guy like Lampkin doesn’t come cheap either.
I'm reserving judgment because Red's still portal shopping, but we've been a piece or two away almost every year for almost a decade, so that would just mean more of the same (which hopefully it's not and we get those pieces).It needs to be repeated though so I'll say it too. Piece or two away. Sure the PG is a major piece but the 2-5 are settled with a McD's 4, a bloodied tournament experienced guy at 5, and Mr 9-9 at NC State Bell & JJ at the 2.
You really think Carlos can match Gillon's production? I hope so, but tend to doubt it. Gillon was a solid guard for us. If Carlos can produce anything similar to Gillon, I'd be VERY happy. Hell, he shot 42% from 3, 86% FT, and had over 5 assists per game with 2 turnovers.
Gillon played in the MWC, much tougher league.You really think Carlos can match Gillon's production? I hope so, but tend to doubt it. Gillon was a solid guard for us. If Carlos can produce anything similar to Gillon, I'd be VERY happy. Hell, he shot 42% from 3, 86% FT, and had over 5 assists per game with 2 turnovers.