Class of 2019 PG Dakota Leffew (GA) Portal to Georgia

[General20]

So I always get concerned when I start seeing responses of "he is out of our budget or we can't pay the price " comments because it seemingly turns into some sort of board truth that I would wager is not remotely accurate. On more than a few occasions board insiders have shared Nil is mostly not an issue BUT it's not unlimited either. Choosing not to over pay in the market to me is smart. For example I believe it was validated that we had met Edwards original asking price and then West Virginia came in and offered more is the story. Allot more. Syracuse deciding not to overpay the outlier number doesn't mean they couldn't have, it just means they wanted to spend different.

Great post. The other sport I really like besides college basketball is soccer, and in that sport you have always had to buy your players.

Just like in college, there are a handful of teams that just have way more resources than anybody else and spend without regard.

The rest of the teams are using a budget. Almost without qualifications the ones that struggle are the teams that get desperate and overspend. The teams that have a valuation of every position and every player, and stick to it, tend to be the successful. Long term, making your fifth best player your highest paid player just because you are desperate for a point guard isn't a good idea. There are other fish in the sea, you have to find the right fit at the right price.

We already have, in my opinion at least, two very good players who are perfect fits for what we need. Clearly there is money to spend. Also, clearly, we are not Duke or Kansas that can just write a check for whatever amount is necessary to get the player we want. We have to find the right player, yes, but also at the right price. Let's let the process play out. We are 2 for 2 so far.

 

[mark79]

You don't have to infer anything. Just let it play out.
Maybe the coaching hire was about filling a need and not trying to get one recruit.

Agree. There’s NO WAY we hire his coach and just expected him to come without an agreement already in place. I’ve gotta believe these are two independent decisions.

 

[Nicknack]

I would have done a lot for beer money in the mid to late 80’s

Maybe we could all drink some pee to help fund our nil for Leffew.


I kid, I kid. Marsh is a nasty man, not the rest of us!

 

[RF2044]

Maybe we could all drink some pee to help fund our nil for Leffew.


I kid, I kid. Marsh is a nasty man, not the rest of us!

You first?

 

[LetMeIn]

Maybe we could all drink some pee to help fund our nil for Leffew.


I kid, I kid. Marsh is a nasty man, not the rest of us!

I don't know about drinking it, but I'll definitely step-up and donate some to the UrNIL collective

 

[kingtidge]

So I always get concerned when I start seeing responses of "he is out of our budget or we can't pay the price " comments because it seemingly turns into some sort of board truth that I would wager is not remotely accurate. On more than a few occasions board insiders have shared Nil is mostly not an issue BUT it's not unlimited either. Choosing not to over pay in the market to me is smart. For example I believe it was validated that we had met Edwards original asking price and then West Virginia came in and offered more is the story. Allot more. Syracuse deciding not to overpay the outlier number doesn't mean they couldn't have, it just means they wanted to spend different.

Well, let's look at it this way...

Last year, we lost Jesse (a tier 1 P5 center) because we didn't have a cogent NIL plan at the time to keep him.

In the portal, we (supposedly) were in the mix for Hunter Dickinson (another tier 1 P5 center) to replace Jesse.

We didn't get him.

Plan B was McLeod... a nice, complimentary P5 backup center.

We effectively replaced a starter with a backup.

Had we gotten Dickinson, there is a strong argument to be made we win enough games to get in the dance (especially since McLeod got injured anyhow.)

Also, there is the argument that we were never seriously involved with Dickinson and McLeod was plan A all along... which, of course, is not exactly inspiring.

These decisions have consequences... especially when the replacements aren't like-for-like and are actually a downgrade.

If you have to "overpay" to be competitive, is it really overpaying?

 

[007]

I think he's suggesting since it's been mentioned on here that Leffew is #1 on THE BOARD that anyone other than Leffew would be a different plan, not that that player would be worse.

I don't see how that's a controversial take either.

My one sentence point was that he couldn't make ANY argument, good or bad, about the post-Leffew PG (if there is a post Leffew PG) before knowing who that player is.

But to your point, you have to squint kinda hard to assume that "much more down than ladder from plan B" simply meant a "different plan."

 

[dasher]

All i know is i dont blame this kid for trying to use what the system is and get paid.

When i was 22 i would have licked the back of a toilet bowl for beer money repeatedly if people would have paid.

From what I understand, you did exactly that.

 

[dasher]

So I always get concerned when I start seeing responses of "he is out of our budget or we can't pay the price " comments because it seemingly turns into some sort of board truth that I would wager is not remotely accurate. On more than a few occasions board insiders have shared Nil is mostly not an issue BUT it's not unlimited either. Choosing not to over pay in the market to me is smart. For example I believe it was validated that we had met Edwards original asking price and then West Virginia came in and offered more is the story. Allot more. Syracuse deciding not to overpay the outlier number doesn't mean they couldn't have, it just means they wanted to spend different.

In Jesses' case, I think we thought, where does it end with this guy. We met his price once. If we do again, is he going to come back again?

 

[kingtidge]

In Jesses' case, I think we thought, where does it end with this guy. We met his price once. If we do again, is he going to come back again?

True, but I also question whether we even knew what we were doing.

The post-WV announcement where their NIL head basically said the numbers being bantered around for Jesse were not correct, it would definitely be less, and that they hadn't even developed or structured the contract yet.

I mean, I'm sure they had some sort of basic "agreement in principle" or similar, but it certainly sounded like nothing was definitive.

 

[Cusefan0307]

 

[Niastri]

Things were different in the 80’s

Toilets were WAY cleaner back then.

 

[Scotch]

Pee is just beer being recycled and as a bonus, sterilized.

 

[Orangezoo]

Hopefully we can find the money and make it work with Leffew and then Red gets real with understanding we have to get out there and push for NIL money.

Hopefully there is some collaboration going on with HCFB on that front too.

 

[jdubs30]

if we have a number that are willing to go on Lefeww and he’s looking for more than that, it is what it is.

But if we can’t AFFORD Lafeww that is more concerning

 

[JarHeadJim]

I don't know about drinking it, but I'll definitely step-up and donate some to the UrNIL collective

Tomorrow is 4-20 some may need clean pee on Monday for the surprise pèee pee test.

 

[jordoo]

Tomorrow iss 4-20 some may need clean pee on Monday for the surprise pèee pee test.

I worked at one place for 12 years they had something they called random drug testing, but they only ever chose people that would pass. The same 10 people were always chosen for the random test.

 

[dasher]

if we have a number that are willing to go on Lefeww and he’s looking for more than that, it is what it is.

But if we can’t AFFORD Lafeww that is more concerning

What if it is a little of both. And I don't know. But if we gave hima number that we think he is worth, and that is the top of what we can offer, but he has got as higher offer.....And the thing is, I have been told he wants to go to Syracuse.

 

[pearl31]

I have been told he wants to go to Syracuse.

things that make u go hmmm

 

[cali315phan]

What if it is a little of both. And I don't know. But if we gave hima number that we think he is worth, and that is the top of what we can offer, but he has got as higher offer...And the thing is, I have been told he wants to go to Syracuse.

I'm not as connected as you but I've also heard the same and that he's our #1 guy from people that would know. If both of those things are true, and he does NOT end up here, then it's almost undoubtedly because we didn't have enough, not we didn't want to give it up.

 

[SP_Gilbs]

What if it is a little of both. And I don't know. But if we gave hima number that we think he is worth, and that is the top of what we can offer, but he has got as higher offer...And the thing is, I have been told he wants to go to Syracuse.

If he’s our number one target and seemingly the last piece to the puzzle you would hope we could find some way to make it work. Feels like we’ll be kicking ourselves if we don’t come up with the money here and have to turn to a backup plan. It’s such an important year for Red and I’m sure he feels the urgency so hopefully we can find a way to close the deal here.

 

[kcsu]

All i know is i dont blame this kid for trying to use what the system is and get paid.

When i was 22 i would have licked the back of a toilet bowl for beer money repeatedly if people would have paid.

So your a Genny screamer fan

 

[50YRsofCuse]

Most?

That was a kind, benefit of a doubt statement Based on lack of knowledge of this site participants.

 

[50YRsofCuse]

Agree. There’s NO WAY we hire his coach and just expected him to come without an agreement already in place. I’ve gotta believe these are two independent decisions.

Believe that they are two separate events with no dependency on the other.

 

[Jake]

I have been told that it is 100% about $$$. He wants us. But we are short on what we are either willing to pay or able to pay. I hope we can reach an agreement with him.

Not surprising and makes perfect sense watching it play out.

If it was purely about the money, he would have committed to Nova. Kid wants to play here, but sees there’s more $ elsewhere…right now.