Playoff Path

[TheCusian]

No, not this year.

But hear me out. I've been a fan since I was 8 or 9. I turn 40 next week. Honest question: does our place in a P5 make it easier to get a National Championship than our BE days? I mean, before we'd be battling perception (NE team, BE not considered a top tier conference) where perception played an outsized influence (polls, then BCS).

Seems to me like the distance between getting into the playoffs (though the odds are still rough) has gotten clearer, and maybe even easier. Has there been a clearer path since I've been a fan?

Now: win all of your games, maybe you can lose one if you play a tough schedule, win your conference championship game = You are IN the playoffs where it's decided on the field

Then: win all of your games, impressing everyone enough to take your seriously even though you don't play a ton of top teams and then maybe voters will take notice and a bunch of name brand schools lose enough that you get enough votes (way back) or (during the BCS era) you somehow sneak into the BCS game over a 1 loss SEC team that's gamed the system, etc.

This all plays into Dino building it here (Syracuse? Why not Syracuse!)... I think the most limiting factor might be the BoT and the commitment to the football program (who knows where they are on that, truly).

Just my 2 cents. Go Orange!

 

[All4SU]

If the BE was still alive, the current 4-team playoff format would certainly work against the BE, even though there were many years when the top BE teams were better than the ACC's. The new format benefits the P5. The BE would have been on the outside looking in. As an ACC member now, the conference play is tougher (because the best BE teams are. Is also in the ACC). But the credibility of winning the conference virtually guarantees a spot in the playoff.

 

[SWC75]

An 8 team playoff with 5 auto bid to the power conference champions would give a lot of hope to a lot of teams.

 

[upperdeck]

I look at the fact that if we were 6-1 now without the MTST loss and just losing one of the LSU/NC st game we would be around top 20 with an outside shot if we ran the table.. We would have had no shot before with that record.

 

[SmilinBob]

I'm thrilled that SU after 7 games still has a chance to win the Atlantic. It's been a long time since we could say that and mean it.

 

[TheCusian]

I wonder if Babers sees in us what Briles saw in Baylor*. They were in national conversations late in the year a couple of times.

* minus the rapes and coverups

 

[SmilinBob]

I wonder if Babers sees in us what Briles saw in Baylor*. They were in national conversations late in the year a couple of times.

* minus the rapes and coverups

Maybe, interesting point. One thing that SU offers is the whole state of NY and imo Baylor would never get all of Texas. Add to that the Dome as coach has said multiple times. I really like how the staff EMBRACES the uniqueness of the area and potential of NY.

 

[sufandu]

No, not this year.

But hear me out. I've been a fan since I was 8 or 9. I turn 40 next week. Honest question: does our place in a P5 make it easier to get a National Championship than our BE days? I mean, before we'd be battling perception (NE team, BE not considered a top tier conference) where perception played an outsized influence (polls, then BCS).

Seems to me like the distance between getting into the playoffs (though the odds are still rough) has gotten clearer, and maybe even easier. Has there been a clearer path since I've been a fan?

Now: win all of your games, maybe you can lose one if you play a tough schedule, win your conference championship game = You are IN the playoffs where it's decided on the field

Then: win all of your games, impressing everyone enough to take your seriously even though you don't play a ton of top teams and then maybe voters will take notice and a bunch of name brand schools lose enough that you get enough votes (way back) or (during the BCS era) you somehow sneak into the BCS game over a 1 loss SEC team that's gamed the system, etc.

This all plays into Dino building it here (Syracuse? Why not Syracuse!)... I think the most limiting factor might be the BoT and the commitment to the football program (who knows where they are on that, truly).

Just my 2 cents. Go Orange!

Under the "then" category I would add "start the year with a high ranking." There were a number of teams during the BCS era that got screwed because they weren't ranked high enough during the preseason and didn't have enough teams lose in front of them.

I would say it's better for us now. I think it would be better if we were in the weaker division but right now we'll never get left out because of a lack of strength of schedule. If we put a magical season together with one or no losses we'll be in the conversation, given our current home. In the BE we could have climbed up the rankings and still had no hope of getting high enough.

 

[UnknownOrange]

We're in the ACC. If we go undefeated or just lose 1 game.. we are more than likely going to be in a 4 team playoff.

I can't believe I even typed that sentence

 

[TheCusian]

We're in the ACC. If we go undefeated or just lose 1 game.. we are more than likely going to be in a 4 team playoff.

I can't believe I even typed that sentence

This is the info the BoT should be weighing when thinking about what to do with compensation. The win over #2 Clemson was one win - what kind of eyeballs would be on the university with a playoff run? Bigger than the Final Four?

 

[UnknownOrange]

This is the info the BoT should be weighing when thinking about what to do with compensation. The win over #2 Clemson was one win - what kind of eyeballs would be on the university with a playoff run? Bigger than the Final Four?

The Money On The Line In The College Football National Championship Game