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Message: [QUOTE="FRANKIEFAN, post: 4081526, member: 6729"] This year it was 5. Oregon won at Ohio State we have no wins like that. The schools joining the Big 12 are better than top ACC teams Cincy Houston and BYU are better than Wake and Pitt. UCF has been that level recently. Things can chance but I don't see Dabo getting Clemson back to where they were. Sucks we couldn't get the FSU win and be bowling some of the ACC teams playing in bowls aren't better than us. [/QUOTE]