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Message: [QUOTE="jordoo, post: 876808, member: 569"] I think the way you describe the offensive player receiving the ball with his back to the basket is exactly what makes Baye so valuable against teams that try to attack us there. He recognizes very quickly when the guard will not be able to cover and reacts in time to be there on the catch or before the turn. I high percentage of the time this discourages anything other than a pass back out to a guard just by him being there on time or early and the offensive player feeling his presence. If you notice with Rak and DC2 its much more common for the player to have already turned with a good look at the rim before they commit to a close out making the shot much easier and a pump fake very effective on the late close. [/QUOTE]