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[QUOTE="billsin01, post: 4393124, member: 837"]
Fair enough. Good points here. I'd argue that the reason we have that massive fan base has more to do with JB than the school itself -- we sure as hell can't say that about our football team. I mean, we've got fans all over but it's not like hoops where SU fans take over arenas. So when you're talking about a huge fan base -- that is in itself a credit to what JB (and staff, players, admin, etc.) have built the past 5 decades or so.

But, regardless, the fact remains. Being frustrated with where we are is natural. Criticizing JB is not only OK, it's important (even if he hates it) because it's the only thing that validates the praise when we are playing well.  But when there's this dismissive edge to everything, it just seems odd to me. It is what it is and when it comes time to figure out the post-JB era the reality is he'll be a difficult act to follow. Everyone feels as though we'll just start winning 25 games a year and pulling in big-name recruits. I hope that's true but I don't know.
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