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[QUOTE="Orange87, post: 3422293, member: 1341"]
I don’t know you can discount National Championships if you are ranking teams in term of historical program success when putting them in ‘tiers’.

Most Championships:

1. UCLA - 10
2. Kentucky - 8
3. UNC - 6
4. Duke - 5
4. IU - 5

6. UConn - 4
7. Kansas - 3

8. Louisville - 2
8. Michigan State - 2
8. Florida - 2
8. Cincinnati - 2
8. NC State - 2
8, Oklahoma State - 2
8. University of San Francisco - 2

After that there are 20 schools in 15th place that each have one trophy, including Syracuse.  Indiana has not won a championship since ‘87 but to say that discounts them is ludicrous.  Granted they’ve not lived up to their tradition of greatness but they have not been irrelevant either.

UConn won their last one only 6 years ago.

Tell me how Syracuse is in the same tier as UConn and Indiana.  Final Fours & winning seasons should absolutely be considered when ranking but even so, championships are the ultimate goal so in my opinion they should carry much more weight.

If the situation were reversed and Syracuse had UConn or IU’s pedigree and UConn/IU had SU’s, everybody would be screaming about how SU is 100% top tier and those other schools were far behind.

I’m not saying that just because a school has 1 or even 2 more NCs Than SU, that they should be in a higher tier than SU, but when you’re talking about 3 or 4 more, that‘s a big deal.
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