Quadrant 1 wins

[Cuseball]

I think we are in after the win today. The knock being used against us by Lunardi and others is lack of Quad 1 wins. It's inconsistent with how they are viewing other bubble teams. A comparison vs Quad 1

• Cuse 1-6
• Drake 1-2
• Xavier 1-2
• Louisville 1-5
• UNC 2-8
• UCLA 2-6
• Colorado State 2-3
• Boise State 2-4
• St. Louis 2-2
• VCU 2-4
• Georgia Tech 2-6

 

[chugg21]

I think we are in after the win today. The knock being used against us by Lunardi and others is lack of Quad 1 wins. It's inconsistent with how they are viewing other bubble teams. A comparison vs Quad 1

• Cuse 1-6
• Drake 1-2
• Xavier 1-2
• Louisville 1-5
• UNC 2-8
• UCLA 2-6
• Colorado State 2-3
• Boise State 2-4
• St. Louis 2-2
• VCU 2-4
• Georgia Tech 2-6

Well 1-6 is worse than all of the teams you listed there so not sure what you're tryin to show us that is a good thing.

 

[littlereg]

Well 1-6 is worse than all of the teams you listed there so not sure what you're tryin to show us that is a good thing.

If all the other factors are the same then yes. However quad 1 wins isn’t the only thing that matters and I think that is OP’s actual point.

 

[Cuse1055]

Well 1-6 is worse than all of the teams you listed there so not sure what you're tryin to show us that is a good thing.

Boeheim makes the great point that all of our quad 1 chances have been on the road thanks to Covid. Losing home games against FSU and Louisville were out of our control. Not to mention I think we would have beaten Louisville on the road too (thanks a lot Cards).

 

[Orangemen]

What does our one pager look like?

does it call out home/road splits by quadrant?

 

[UpstateSM]

We might not have a single Q1 win tomorrow morning if State drops 8 spots lol

 

[blust2i3d4]

Well 1-6 is worse than all of the teams you listed there so not sure what you're tryin to show us that is a good thing.

But we have two home games against Louisville and Florida State cancelled. If we won one of the two, which is very likely because of our good record at home this year, we would be 2-7. Not the worst of the bunch.

 

[Cuse1055]

We might not have a single Q1 win tomorrow morning if State drops 8 spots lol

Or we may leave the ACC tournament with 3 or more if we beat Virginia as well as Clemson and UNC win some games.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[UpstateSM]

Or we may leave the ACC tournament with 3 or more if we beat Virginia as well as Clemson and UNC win some games.

Yupp. Wide range of possibilities. We could end up on the outside or as high as a 10 seed if we go on a run.

 

[sutomcat]

I think we are in after the win today. The knock being used against us by Lunardi and others is lack of Quad 1 wins. It's inconsistent with how they are viewing other bubble teams. A comparison vs Quad 1

• Cuse 1-6
• Drake 1-2
• Xavier 1-2
• Louisville 1-5
• UNC 2-8
• UCLA 2-6
• Colorado State 2-3
• Boise State 2-4
• St. Louis 2-2
• VCU 2-4
• Georgia Tech 2-6

Good work.

Lunardi doesn't pass the look test as a bracketologist. He needs to focus on something more conducive to his core skills, like garbage collecting.

Even Bilas dismissed our chances on XM radio last night, saying we had 11 or 12 losses. I thought he was interested in dealing with facts.

 

[Charbroil]

We might not have a single Q1 win tomorrow morning if State drops 8 spots lol

I was kind of hoping NC state would start hitting a bunch of 3s in the final 2 minutes to cut it from a 20 point defeat to 10 point defeat. Just to help their computer numbers a bit.

 

[UpstateSM]

I was kind of hoping NC state would start hitting a bunch of 3s in the final 2 minutes to cut it from a 20 point defeat to 10 point defeat. Just to help their computer numbers a bit.

Same haha although it seems like the NET rewards teams for blowout wins more than it punishes teams for big losses. Hopefully they only fall to low 70s and no one immediately below them goes on a run.

 

[hoopsupstate]

I think Louisville should be worried if they lose today. They don’t have a sparkling resume.

 

[orangenauburn]

Good work.

Lunardi doesn't pass the look test as a bracketologist. He needs to focus on something more conducive to his core skills, like garbage collecting.

Even Bilas dismissed our chances on XM radio last night, saying we had 11 or 12 losses. I thought he was interested in dealing with facts.

Bilas seems pretty butthurt with us since JB spoke out a month ago

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

My 2 cents? And I am probably very wrong.

They are in the play in 12 seed as we speak. I think a competitive loss to UVA keeps them there.

A blowout loss to UVA will knock them BACK out.

A win overt UVA moves them to the 10 seed.

Two more wins I think gets them to an 8/9 game.

I think the ceiling with tourney march and tourney win would be a 7 or so. I dont think we could get any higher than that due to some of the negatives on the resume that won't go away even with 3 more wins.

 

[upperdeck]

it also helps that some Conf play all home away schedules and some play mixed ones.. getting anyone twice is a help .

 

[NineOneSeven]

My 2 cents? And I am probably very wrong.

They are in the play in 12 seed as we speak. I think a competitive loss to UVA keeps them there.

A blowout loss to UVA will knock them BACK out.

A win overt UVA moves them to the 10 seed.

Two more wins I think gets them to an 8/9 game.

I think the ceiling with tourney march and tourney win would be a 7 or so. I dont think we could get any higher than that due to some of the negatives on the resume that won't go away even with 3 more wins.

In that case... beat uva and then lose to stay in the 7/10 game

 

[oTTo113445]

ucla's beat Marquette at home and Arizona twice their best wins. imo, with marquette being= to nc on the road, those are no better than our 3 ncstate wins. They play tomorrow.

 

[chugg21]

My 2 cents? And I am probably very wrong.

They are in the play in 12 seed as we speak. I think a competitive loss to UVA keeps them there.

A blowout loss to UVA will knock them BACK out.

A win overt UVA moves them to the 10 seed.

Two more wins I think gets them to an 8/9 game.

I think the ceiling with tourney march and tourney win would be a 7 or so. I dont think we could get any higher than that due to some of the negatives on the resume that won't go away even with 3 more wins.

Think I'm exactly with you here. At worst need to have a competitive loss tomorrow. Any of these terrible 65-48 games will not be good in pushing us over the hump or keeping us from getting pushed back out.

 

[STEVEHOLT]

Bilas seems pretty butthurt with us since JB spoke out a month ago

And yet on his most recent espn article he has SU as one of the best 50 teams

 

[UnknownOrange]

Here's my issue with the NET rankings, especially this year.

A Q1 win is -30, N1-50, or A1-75

That is based on the NET. We are in TOURNAMENT week, and Colgate is #8. They have played 3 teams this year.

So if we played Colgate pre ACCT, it would have been our biggest win of the season... come on lol

 

[FreakTalksAboutSU]

Here's my issue with the NET rankings, especially this year.

A Q1 win is -30, N1-50, or A1-75

That is based on the NET. We are in TOURNAMENT week, and Colgate is #8. They have played 3 teams this year.

So if we played Colgate pre ACCT, it would have been our biggest win of the season... come on lol

I also think that the ranking should be based on where they were when you played them.

What happens if a great team you beat, suddenly loses a star and plummets later in the season? Why should you lose a Q1 win? Similar. A team without a star you beat, gets him back and suddenly becomes elite. Thats a bogus Q1 win.

 

[Madbiker]

Boeheim makes the great point that all of our quad 1 chances have been on the road thanks to Covid. Losing home games against FSU and Louisville were out of our control. Not to mention I think we would have beaten Louisville on the road too (thanks a lot Cards).

Yes but does the committee care about this?

 

[djcon57]

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Ugh, remove that damn Pitt loss at home and I reallly think we’re in easy right now.