Question for our FB savvy insiders:

[Capt. Tuttle]

On the broadcast, during the second half, they stated that SU had removed the Pass Option from the RPOs, so everyone was on the same page as to when it would be a run.
Would that make a difference for the O-line in how they attacked the defense?
Whatever it is, we just seemed to dominate the run game.

 

[Cusefan95]

Is there an offense between an RPO with no pass option, and a “running play”?

Because it feels like those are kinda identical in practice.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

They can just push / road grade and not have to worry about staying outside of “ineligible receiver” territory.

 

[690West]

On the broadcast, during the second have, they stated that SU had removed the Pass Option from the RPOs, so everyone was on the same page as to when it would be a run.
Would that make a difference for the O-line in how they attacked the defense?
Whatever it is, we just seemed to dominate the run game.

Running game

So what did we do differently to be able to run the ball so well today? Different plays? Different blocking schemes? Different linemen?

syracusefan.com

 

[qdawgg]

I need to watch again but I think they also simplified some of the blocking patterns. Almost a, just block the guy in front of you instead of pulling guys and having a lot of movement after the hike. The holes straight up the middle that opened quickly are usually indicative of guys blocking what’s in front of them and not having to think too much. You need the RB to hit the right hole and just go. Everything seemed to work well yesterday. And my guess is that what you stated also played a role in that as well. Keeping the run game calls as simple as possible.

 

[SarasotaPaul]

They can just push / road grade and not have to worry about staying outside of “ineligible receiver” territory.

As a LeMoyne grad myself it struck me as a bit funny that another LeMoyne grad chimes in on a football issue. I agree with your input completely though. Its just that way my mind often looks a things a bit sideways. Thanks for the early morning chuckle.

 

[CIL]

RPO is typically out of a zone run scheme ((not always), and you usually have TEs and WRs running routes.

We used a lot of trap and power run game yesterday. Lots of pulling and seeing OL on linebackers (tough to do in the RPO game because of ineligible lineman downfield).

 

[shu 49]

On the broadcast, during the second half, they stated that SU had removed the Pass Option from the RPOs, so everyone was on the same page as to when it would be a run.
Would that make a difference for the O-line in how they attacked the defense?
Whatever it is, we just seemed to dominate the run game.

I think we just went downhill blocking and dropped Allen back more as heis not a zone type guy as he is a downhill runner and it showed. i hadnt seen linemen blocking downfield all year and i mean not once. Saw it a lot yesterday which i love.

 

[Cuse181]

On the broadcast, during the second half, they stated that SU had removed the Pass Option from the RPOs, so everyone was on the same page as to when it would be a run.
Would that make a difference for the O-line in how they attacked the defense?
Whatever it is, we just seemed to dominate the run game.

I think blocking down field is an option when it isn’t in an RPO

 

[DomeHolmes]

RPO is typically out of a zone run scheme ((not always), and you usually have TEs and WRs running routes.

We used a lot of trap and power run game yesterday. Lots of pulling and seeing OL on linebackers (tough to do in the RPO game because of ineligible lineman downfield).

Was just about to post on Zone blocking. On RPO, O line does not know if it’s a run or pass so they can’t go downfield. They have to zone block and hope a LB/safety fills the wrong gap to spring a big run with a 6 man box vs. 4 wide 1 back set.

we still should have had more success ytd against light boxes, but havent.

If you look at LQA big runs you see OL 10 yards down field consistently.

Petry actually did a good job at this aspect a few times. Villari was good too.

 

[orangenauburn]

Whatever they did I hope they do it against BC.

Don't play games just push and bully them upfront.

 

[OttosShoes]

The pro of an RPO is that it may catch the defense off guard.
The cons of an RPO; it incurs extra mental load, and risk (bad decisions, downfield penalties, potential delay, etc.).

We weren't appearing to fool defenses with ours, so mostly just enjoyed the downsides.

Even if LeQuint gets an extra foot of room out of a block or a handoff he turns it into several downhill yards. And he *does* get extra room. Imagine what it'd be like to have 340 lbs of Savion Washington charging at you unemcumbered by downfield restrictions.

 

[upperdeck]

with RPO the qb can save a play with a good read. without it you have to decide everything pre-snap.

clearly our oline struggled to make blocks when they could not be as physical.

it will be a few games before we know if it really helps us.