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Message: [QUOTE="CU44SE, post: 1225030, member: 2196"] Your right, I should stop pounding my fist on the table for change and just give up on the team I have lived to watch every Saturday for the past 26 years. Shame on me for wanting this great program to rise again. I'll just sit here and condone the losing and give fake praise where it's warranted. All I said was there have been plenty of great recruiters who have not had college coaching success. Not sure how that is so egregious, I didn't even say anything specifically about Shafer in this thread. I was simply commenting on people saying this staff is great at recruiting. Great recruiting doesn't always lead to on field success is my point. [/QUOTE]