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Message: [QUOTE="chakka3421, post: 1225048, member: 1091"] The voice of reason! I don't mind criticism of staff, use of players, play calling yada yada, but unjustified negativity to the extreme where we are firing staff after 2 years is misguided and where the awkward first year we ended up where we went bowling. Shafer has proven himself on the D side, we just need to see improvement on the O side and we have a keeper! Much different than the Grob era as he was a D expert and his D was awful. I keep trying to remind people that Shafer played as a QB in college - he has a great opportunity to get it right on the I side. Keep the faith and let it all play out. [/QUOTE]