RE: Reddish fumble return

[Cadillac]

Fans always remember the plays they assume they could have made. It's like coaching with TOP/timeouts.

Reality is no one posting here at any point in their lives would have been able to backpedal, track down the receiver, strip the ball, and return it to that point.

And I 100 percent guarantee anyone here who even has half a claim to would have shat their orange pants when that OL first appeared in their field of vision. That "fat kid" wanted some cake.

 

[mountaincuse]

Brandon made a play and so did Welsh.

Both got tackled before the end zone.

One play resulted in offensive points, the other didn't.

If the offense does their job, we're not taking about this.

He made a great play to be in that position and had a good game.

 

[TheCusian]

Brandon made a play and so did Welsh.

Both got tackled before the end zone.

One play resulted in offensive points, the other didn't.

If the offense does their job, we're not taking about this.

He made a great play to be in that position and had a good game.

Yep. 4 TO's and you normally win. Problem was O's lack of execution and our 3 TO's.

 

[tbonezone]

lest we forget we caught a huge break with the original fumble ruling. knee was down or damn close.

 

[Oakland]

Just want to point out that he was not "caught" by that lineman, the guy had the angle.

Now Spirull should have blocked the dude or at least ran into his way but had STOPPED SPRINTING.

That return not being 6 is on #11, not #4.

Funny thing is I agree with almost every post in this thread
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[OttoinGrotto]

Don't forget Reddish also just played defense, chased down Robinson, stripped the ball, and then ran 50 yards. He was probably exhausted by that point.

Exhausted to the point where resting underneath the fat guy sounds good?

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[CIL]

This debate is so ridiculous it's borderline insane. The kid chased down PSU's best player some 35 yards or so from the line of scrimmage, stripped him, and returned it some what 40 yards, juking out several PSU players on his way. An you guys are blasting him for not taking all the way? It's this type of stupidity that keeps people from posting more on this board.

Most of or are overlooking the fact that Reddish most likely TOOK points AWAY from PSU - possibly a touchdown as they were driving and were deep in our territory. Do you know how exhausting that play had to be even for the most well conditioned athlete?

Instead of praising one of the best hustle plays I have seen a Syracuse player make in a long time we have people blasting him.

 

[DNABB5]

You are all missing my point. Spirull STOPPED HUSTLING. Watch the endzone angle, he literally slowed up to a jog. He was the one who had an angle on the one guy that still had an angle on Reddish. If Spirull goes full bore Brandon doesn't even get touched.

 

[dollarbill44]

lest we forget we caught a huge break with the original fumble ruling. knee was down or damn close.

Well, if it was "damned close", then he wasn't down and it was the right call. We caught a break because he lost the football. TOs are often "breaks" because they are mistakes by the other team, but they are often caused by good plays by the defense.
A "huge" break is the backup QB losing the ball when he was throwing.

 

[tbonezone]

the huge break is that it was originally ruled a fumble. not enuf video evidence to overturn the call.had he been whistled down by contact...clearly not enuf there to overturn the call.thus i call it a big break.
the backup qb backward hiccup pass may well have been what kept hunt from getting at least one series.
again 100% pure speculation.

 

[orangenirvana]

This debate is so ridiculous it's borderline insane. The kid chased down PSU's best player some 35 yards or so from the line of scrimmage, stripped him, and returned it some what 40 yards, juking out several PSU players on his way. An you guys are blasting him for not taking all the way? It's this type of stupidity that keeps people from posting more on this board.

Most of or are overlooking the fact that Reddish most likely TOOK points AWAY from PSU - possibly a touchdown as they were driving and were deep in our territory. Do you know how exhausting that play had to be even for the most well conditioned athlete?

Instead of praising one of the best hustle plays I have seen a Syracuse player make in a long time we have people blasting him.

He screwed up. It happens. No need to be so sensitive about it.

 

[The General]

Penn St. lineman hauled ass downfield and made a hell of a play. It happens. Great play by that kid, I'm sure his coaches and teammates were loving him during films.

Things happen fast out there. Easy to second guess. I thought it was a damn fine return to get that far.

 

[CIL]

He screwed up. It happens. No need to be so sensitive about it.

Stupid attitude. He didn't . He made a great play. I don't see many blasting Broyld for dropping a pass that very well could have been a td. No need to be ignorant about it.

 

[Orangetradition44]

Personally, I think he ran out of gas.

Don't forget Reddish also just played defense, chased down Robinson, stripped the ball, and then ran 50 yards. He was probably exhausted by that point.

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[SmilinBob]

Personally I always want the DB to score when he has the ball like that and it is the teams responsibility to escort him into the zone. I also feel the offense and Krautman didn't take advantage of a gift wrapped opportunity. It isn't a personal thing for me regarding Reddish, he made a helluva play and is a very good player, it's just taking care of business...finishing which includes busting hump as blockers after the turnover as well. I want the defense when now turned offense to clear the path and seal the person with the ball from behind. I understand it's a reaction thing but these are the little things you need to execute when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[All4SU]

the huge break is that it was originally ruled a fumble. not enuf video evidence to overturn the call.had he been whistled down by contact...clearly not enuf there to overturn the call.thus i call it a big break.
the backup qb backward hiccup pass may well have been what kept hunt from getting at least one series.
again 100% pure speculation.

Except they didn't rule that the call on the field was upheld. They ruled it was confirmed. Which means in their review they believe his knee was not down, and that the call was correct.

 

[SWC75]

Personally I always want the DB to score when he has the ball like that and it is the teams responsibility to escort him into the zone. I also feel the offense and Krautman didn't take advantage of a gift wrapped opportunity. It isn't a personal thing for me regarding Reddish, he made a helluva play and is a very good player, it's just taking care of business...finishing which includes busting hump as blockers after the turnover as well. I want the defense when now turned offense to clear the path and seal the person with the ball from behind. I understand it's a reaction thing but these are the little things you need to execute when the opportunity presents itself.

I still tend to blame his blockers more than Reddish but I wonder: are such plays, (usually off an interception), practiced by the team? I suspect they are.

 

[Chip]

I still tend to blame his blockers more than Reddish but I wonder: are such plays, (usually off an interception), practiced by the team? I suspect they are.

Probably. If this type of play happens again, and I suspect it will (good defenders like him will find themselves making plays more often than not), I bet he takes it to the house. I can't imagine how much (good natured) ball busting he had to hear from his teammates in the film room. I bet the coaches even got in on it.

 

[orangenirvana]

Stupid attitude. He didn't . He made a great play. I don't see many blasting Broyld for dropping a pass that very well could have been a td. No need to be ignorant about it.

Stupid attitude? Ignorant? Take it down a notch, CIL.

So because you don't see many blasting Broyld (I have seen posts blasting Broyld), that means we shouldn't mention that Reddish had a golden opportunity after making a great play yet couldn't seize it? And what is "ignorant" about discussing it?

Not finishing plays is often the difference between wins and losses. Reddish is a good player and he made a great play to strip Robinson and scoop it up. But he needs to finish it and he couldn't.

 

[TheCusian]

Stupid attitude? Ignorant? Take it down a notch, CIL.

So because you don't see many blasting Broyld (I have seen posts blasting Broyld), that means we shouldn't mention that Reddish had a golden opportunity after making a great play yet couldn't seize it? And what is "ignorant" about discussing it?

Not finishing plays is often the difference between wins and losses. Reddish is a good player and he made a great play to strip Robinson and scoop it up. But he needs to finish it and he couldn't.

The great play was the strip. Had he just caused the fumble, picked up by us - would we not have said he made a great play?

People have been blasting the kid more for not cashing in than praising him for the play he made.

That is stupid.