Read an interesting rumor on the UB fan boards.....

[kcsu]

Not good traits for a qb. I say pass. Time to give Kinder Hunt and B a chance

 

[qdawgg]

Didn't seem to hold back Vince Young, who I believe scored the lowest score ever on the Wonderlick, or whatever they call their NFL IQ test.

Some people on here get excited about undersized kids and say they can play b/c "so and so in the NFL does with that size". Then someone else replies by saying that undersized success stories are the exception and not the rule. I think that is what we have here. Just because Michael Vick was successful despite being dumb as hell, doesn't mean that Kelly will be successful being equally stupid.

 

[CusefanATL]

Not good traits for a qb. I say pass. Time to give Kinder Hunt and B a chance

Does B = Broyld?

The same Broyld who pulled his pants down and swung his JOHNSON around for the hundreds in attendance?

Thats a solid trait for a QB...

I am no anti-Broyld by any means... but 2 things.

1. compare what broyld and kelly did. and get back to me. and lets be honest... i have heard kelly speak. he isnt dumb. he may not be the brightest, but he didnt get a 720 on his SAT's... isnt it out of 2400 now?

2. Anyone that thinks that a football player cant get into Clemson (a stupid school and a football school, meaning they accept reg stupid joes and then because they are a football school will accept reg IDIOTS who can throw a ball) and thinks they are getting into Cuse (a private school with very little concerns for football) you are INSANE. You have been suspended from the football forum until spring practice starts.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

With the whole 720 SAT thing...

Isn't the minimum score to play like an 830 out of 1600? If he really did score that badly and can't get it up in time, he's prepping next year and not playing at Clemson or Syracuse or anywhere else.

I remember Mike Jones (basketball) having that problem a couple of years ago.

 

[Cusefan78]

I would take this kid even if he only had one arm over anybody on our team now. I don't Care what the kid did in the past if he calls us we better listen and open the door. I'm sick of losing I'm sick of going to games and watching our qb missing players down field by ten yards. Nassib is a joke and I would rather see us take our lumps next year getting our future some reps then see the status quo of nassib. wake up cuse fans ryans a great kid but he's a bad qb

 

[rrlbees]

Would be very disappointed in Marrone if we took this kid. He basically got thrown out of Pennsylvania.

 

[rrlbees]

I would take this kid even if he only had one arm over anybody on our team now. I don't Care what the kid did in the past if he calls us we better listen and open the door. I'm sick of losing I'm sick of going to games and watching our qb missing players down field by ten yards. Nassib is a joke and I would rather see us take our lumps next year getting our future some reps then see the status quo of nassib. wake up cuse fans ryans a great kid but he's a bad qb

(n)(n)

 

[IthacaBarrel]

It's up to the head coach to decide who he brings in and who he doesn't all I want is wins and some offense, if he can sleep at night with the cast of characters that he brings in then so be it. There are at risk kids in every program everywhere. I could care less about this type of stuff. we obviously, have issues here currently. People get carried away with this stuff, IMO. Look, the last 12 months have proven we have taken several risks on kids and a lot of these kids are doing a few things they probably should not be, as many college kids are

At the end of the day, marrone needs to recruit better and will be forced to take risk in certain areas if he plans on keeping his job for more than another 2 years. I am not saying I would take Kelly or not, I guess it depends on how soon he thinks he can help.

Personally, I don't know how good Kelly actually is and usually they arent as good as we think. In addition, I don't think any true frosh should ever start at qb. In addition, he won't be playing at Clemson for 2 years with what they have now and the way Sweeney recruits they could very likely recruit right over him. If Kelly goes to Clemson, I would be surprised if he didn't transfer or fail out

 

[jr4750]

With the whole 720 SAT thing...

Isn't the minimum score to play like an 830 out of 1600? If he really did score that badly and can't get it up in time, he's prepping next year and not playing at Clemson or Syracuse or anywhere else.

I remember Mike Jones (basketball) having that problem a couple of years ago.

What a waste of talent he was... He could have been great! Just goes to show you that talent doesn't immediately spell success.

 

[Noexcuse]

Wasn't there a thread a week or so ago with a tweet from Kelly saying the rumor wasn't true?

 

[OrangeAl]

wow some of you amaze me...hes a big qb recruit and i'd b e esatic to get him even if this rumor is prob not true. If some of you want a precious 4 star and one with some character flaws has your panty in a bunch then what the hell are you looking for. We NEED him and IF we got him, would be a huge GET.

SU athletes are representatives of the university. If HCDM can trust Kelly to be a good representative of the university then he should pursue him vigorously. But if not, just stay away from him completely.

 

[orange79]

Wasn't there a thread a week or so ago with a tweet from Kelly saying the rumor wasn't true?

Yes. Something to the effect of "I don't know where these rumors are coming from."

 

[TexanMark]

What a waste of talent he was... He could have been great! Just goes to show you that talent doesn't immediately spell success.

On the football side...was thinking how Cater and EJ Carter failed just last nite. Sad those kids now realize they screwed up.

 

[EastBayCuse]

Didn't seem to hold back Vince Young, who I believe scored the lowest score ever on the Wonderlick, or whatever they call their NFL IQ test.

Didn't Donovan McNabb score low on the Wonderlick as well? Certainly doesn't mean much in college, and maybe not such a big deal in the NFL either.
As for him being arrogant - sometimes it takes a couple of years post HS for teenagers to be humbled. I don't want a head-case dog killer no matter how talented, but I think we should let HCDM make the call on his character.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

Does B = Broyld?

The same Broyld who pulled his pants down and swung his JOHNSON around for the hundreds in attendance?

Thats a solid trait for a QB...

I am no anti-Broyld by any means... but 2 things.

1. compare what broyld and kelly did. and get back to me. and lets be honest... i have heard kelly speak. he isnt dumb. he may not be the brightest, but he didnt get a 720 on his SAT's... isnt it out of 2400 now?

2. Anyone that thinks that a football player cant get into Clemson (a stupid school and a football school, meaning they accept reg stupid joes and then because they are a football school will accept reg IDIOTS who can throw a ball) and thinks they are getting into Cuse (a private school with very little concerns for football) you are INSANE. You have been suspended from the football forum until spring practice starts.

I agree with number 2, so this is more just for the sake of debate. But I don't think the first point really holds much water just because it can easily be flipped the other way. We already have Broyld who is bigger, I'm going to say faster but both are very athletic, and put up similar stats against similar competition. As far as their behavior, it's a matter of taste whether you prefer the guy that everyone seems to have good things to say about that have met him, but then let emotion get the best of him at a contest... or the kid that sounds like a complete jackhole, but may not have been caught doing something illegal. To me Broyld and Kelly are the same, with the exception that Kelly has a HOF name. In fact I prefer Broyld because if DM decides that in the wake of this year that he absolutely can't have an "immature" QB, at least Broyld can rock half the positions on the field.

 

[BlackKnight76]

Didn't seem to hold back Vince Young, who I believe scored the lowest score ever on the Wonderlick, or whatever they call their NFL IQ test.

We're not talking about the Wonderlick, we're talking about getting a legendarily low score on one of the most important tests for a HS athlete. A 720 indicates that either a.) Chad Kelly is really really dumb, or b.) Chad Kelly didn't give a about the test. With a score that low, I'm inclined to believe the latter, and honestly, if he can't take that seriously, how can we trust him to do the requisite work that is required as a D1 athlete on the field and in the classroom?

 

[CusefanATL]

I agree with number 2, so this is more just for the sake of debate. But I don't think the first point really holds much water just because it can easily be flipped the other way. We already have Broyld who is bigger, I'm going to say faster but both are very athletic, and put up similar stats against similar competition. As far as their behavior, it's a matter of taste whether you prefer the guy that everyone seems to have good things to say about that have met him, but then let emotion get the best of him at a contest... or the kid that sounds like a complete jackhole, but may not have been caught doing something illegal. To me Broyld and Kelly are the same, with the exception that Kelly has a HOF name. In fact I prefer Broyld because if DM decides that in the wake of this year that he absolutely can't have an "immature" QB, at least Broyld can rock half the positions on the field.

i agree with everything you said, especially the bold.

 

[Noexcuse]

We're not talking about the Wonderlick, we're talking about getting a legendarily low score on one of the most important tests for a HS athlete. A 720 indicates that either a.) Chad Kelly is really really dumb, or b.) Chad Kelly didn't give a **** about the test. With a score that low, I'm inclined to believe the latter, and honestly, if he can't take that seriously, how can we trust him to do the requisite work that is required as a D1 athlete on the field and in the classroom?

Has it actually been established that he scored that low? Seems like it's only a rumor at this point.

 

[All4SU]

I don't think Kelly's going to fare too well if he can't read a playbook.

Dan Marino and Terry Bradshaw did okay.

 

[Moontan]

Has it actually been established that he scored that low? Seems like it's only a rumor at this point.

The people "reporting" that "information" here can't even spell Wonderlic.