8-4 means 4-4 in ACC play...are we really ok with that? I'm not. If that's what we want to strive for, not even remotely challenging for the top quarter of the conference, then why are we even fans? Its terrible that 4-4 in ACC play would be Dinos 2nd best ever yearHonestly, I expected 0-3 and still think that with that, 8-4 is a okay.