Really interesting Coach Boeheim NCAA tournament analysis? Guess who is #1?

[Cuseball]

This was from last March so potentially it's been posted. Quite an interesting read as to where Jimmy stands vs all the competition. He does better than anyone based on seed. Some of our board favorites (Buzz, Jamie Dixon, Barnes, Bennett, Hurley) are well down on the list.

Jimmy B the King of March


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[OttoinGrotto]

This was from last March so potentially it's been posted. Quite an interesting read as to where Jimmy stands vs all the competition. He does better than anyone based on seed. Some of our board favorites (Buzz, Jamie Dixon, Barnes, Bennett, Hurley) are well down on the list.

Jimmy B the King of March


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I remember a really dumb analysis a while back that manipulated the data to say Boeheim was a bad tourney coach.

To do it, they basically removed from the data each time he took an underseeded team to the Final 4, because those were statistical anomalies.

 

[RF2044]

So... does this count as an achilles heel?

 

[OrangeDW]

So... does this count as an achilles heel?

For a guy with like 17 different Achilles heels according to this forum, it’s amazing he manages to win so many games.

 

[Tom K.]

Rick Barnes 2nd to last. No surprise. Rick Barnes didn't make the Sweet 16 with Kevin Durant on his team.

 

[djorange1989]

The man has completely reversed the once upon a time narrative of "can't win the big one/can't win in the tourney". 1987 helped a lot after a ton of flameouts before that, but really starting with the Finals appearance in 1996, he has had a lot of overachievers in the tourney. 2003 obviously put the narrative to bed for good.

 

[kuethstheman]

The man has completely reversed the once upon a time narrative of "can't win the big one/can't win in the tourney". 1987 helped a lot after a ton of flameouts before that, but really starting with the Finals appearance in 1996, he has had a lot of overachievers in the tourney. 2003 obviously put the narrative to bed for good.

Absolutely!

But to point out a caveat that's been mentioned here before when similar ratings showed SU/JB highly rated: It's harder to exceed the number of expected wins when you're always expected to win. That makes records like Roy's (for instance) really extraordinary.

 

[Briancuse]

Rick Barnes 2nd to last. No surprise. Rick Barnes didn't make the Sweet 16 with Kevin Durant on his team.

A lot of pressure on him this year no excuse for him not making a big run.

 

[Cuseball]

Absolutely!

But to point out a caveat that's been mentioned here before when similar ratings showed SU/JB highly rated: It's harder to exceed the number of expected wins when you're always expected to win. That makes records like Roy's (for instance) really extraordinary.

Yep I agree. Something to be said for achieving those really high seeds and then exceeding too.

 

[PeteCalvin]

Imagine what might have happened to the metric if Marek hadn’t fouled out against Duke?

 

[jncuse]

His tournament performance has taking a significant ride upwards since 2013... a final 4 seed as a 4 seed, a final 4 as a 10 seed, a sweet 16 seed as an 11.

It was always more average than bad in the past.