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Recruiting with NIL

Great reading that Gadsden, who wasn’t not in the portal, was receiving a bunch of big NIL offers. The tampering is the worst part in all this stuff.
Yeah not exactly sure how you can receive NIL offers while you’re not in the portal. Any schools doing that should be getting penalized for it.
 
Also means he’s getting real money here which is a good sign for player retainment now and in the future
Agreed. I enjoyed reading that he loved the school, but he's getting paid. There's been a noticeable difference in the last couple months between the basketball commits and the commits we've been getting so far in football. I don't think that's a coincidence in the NIL era.
 
I think that in any state where the legislature has passed a law explicitly stating that the NCAA is barred from punishing schools for violations of the NCAA's own NIL rules, we should assume that, yes, it is the schools.
If the Golf people are on Congress mind, it won't be long until they start looking into college football.
After all they need tax revenue, and Blumenthal has already spread the word about losing tax breaks.
 
I thought using NIL as a recruiting tool was strictly prohibited. Sounds like rules are being broken, unless I've missed something

Could these be "collectives" (not schools) that are doing the recruiting, and if so, is that allowable?

From the article:
"People after last season, because he [Gadsden] had such a great season, were offering NIL deals, big NIL deals, but he turned them all down because he didn't want to go anywhere else. This [Syracuse] was home for him."

Gadsden Hosts Tremble on Visit
 
I thought using NIL as a recruiting tool was strictly prohibited. Sounds like rules are being broken, unless I've missed something

Could these be "collectives" (not schools) that are doing the recruiting, and if so, is that allowable?

From the article:
"People after last season, because he [Gadsden] had such a great season, were offering NIL deals, big NIL deals, but he turned them all down because he didn't want to go anywhere else. This [Syracuse] was home for him."

Gadsden Hosts Tremble on Visit
Tampering is rampant in college athletics.
 
You are saying that employees of schools are reaching out to recruits?

I’m saying that employees of the schools are contacting people who contact people who contact people who end up in the kids ear. It’s no different than the old street agents and handlers.

The football coaches are sort of like the mafia boss or the cartel kingpins. They’re not going to be connected to low level street crimes.

But it’s tampering, you’ll just never connect them to it.
 
I’m saying that employees of the schools are contacting people who contact people who contact people who end up in the kids ear. It’s no different than the old street agents and handlers.

The football coaches are sort of like the mafia boss or the cartel kingpins. They’re not going to be connected to low level street crimes.

But it’s tampering, you’ll just never connect them to it.
It's no secret - even to those turning a blind eye - that NIL boosters are 'representing' (promoting) the interests of their respective schools. The factory fat cats needed a ruse to buy talent and reward performance to get around NCAA rules. NIL is delivering. [edit - however, I don't have any problem with legit. NIL so kids can get paid for appearances and signatures ... even if the IP value is really in the team brand].
 
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You are saying that employees of schools are reaching out to recruits?
I fully expect that this is happening already in certain states. The legal writing is on the wall, and some states are (IMO) willing to bankroll the challenge to the NCAA's regs in this regard. I have no direct evidence of this. Nevertheless.

The first states that passed the "you can't punish our colleges" laws were no doubt reading the Supreme Court precedents and especially Justice Kavanaugh's latest concurrence. My take. Now we are seeing states pass similar laws with explicit statements to the effect of, we can't afford to fall behind, lose a competitive advantage - words to that effect. I don't recall the exact verbiage.

The impact of these laws is to free up the schools to coordinate and implement - and offer - NIL graft in sheer defiance of the NCAA. Daring them to do something about it. Once that line has been crossed, every school that "plays by the rules" is at a competitive disadvantage.

All to feed the emptiness in a bunch of aging losers who care way, way, way too much about college football, and who need to Get A Life. It's not about the kids.
 
seems strange that schools can join something that has rules they agree too and they then ignore the rules. Could HS do this now as well. yeah I know the kid is 25 but it makes our team better.

Could colleges then ignore that 4-5 yr rule willy nilly too? that 10 yr starting super super sr pt guard.
 
All it would take would be for players to start naming names. Who extended offers? How did they contact you? When? How much? And what were the stipulations?

Do that and the shroud of corruption is lifted and penalties could follow. But the players won’t do that because it will ruin them.
 
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Yeah not exactly sure how you can receive NIL offers while you’re not in the portal. Any schools doing that should be getting penalized for it.
How do you penalize a school when it's not the school making the offer?
 
I’m saying that employees of the schools are contacting people who contact people who contact people who end up in the kids ear. It’s no different than the old street agents and handlers.

The football coaches are sort of like the mafia boss or the cartel kingpins. They’re not going to be connected to low level street crimes.

But it’s tampering, you’ll just never connect them to it.
It's absolutely tampering, but, as you laid out, the schools are insulated from it mafia style because third parties are the ones offering the NIL deals. How can that be policed?

As I've said in other threads, the NCAA never wanted it, so once NIL was forced on them they threw up their hands and said have fun. They knew it would be a pandora's box and wanted nothing to do with it. They have to try to save face by establishing some rules, but they're not going to go out of their way to enforce them.
 
seems strange that schools can join something that has rules they agree too and they then ignore the rules. Could HS do this now as well. yeah I know the kid is 25 but it makes our team better.

Could colleges then ignore that 4-5 yr rule willy nilly too? that 10 yr starting super super sr pt guard.
I think the difference is those are concrete rules easily connected to the schools. The NIL rules are harder to connect to the schools, so the loopholes are big enough to drive an aircraft carrier through. If the NCAA tries to close the loopholes, they'll be accused having too many rules. It's the whole reason that rule book Bilas complains about is so thick. If they make a general rule that institutions have to interpret through a lens of integrity, one scumbag will play dumb to get an advantage. Then they have to get so specific, everyone complains they're nitpicky.
 

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