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Haha I came on to say the same thing. That being said, I do miss the old Boeheim pressers (when we were good). He was funny, and when he was pist off, he was hilarious. Total cartoon character.

Not to get overly nostalgic, but as a kid I would get so gut wrenched after a loss, and the Boeheim pressers would help me get over it - I’d be cracking up at this old guy losing his mind at some student journalist or local reporter.

Totally agree though, towards the end he became overly bitter and we stunk. I don’t think I’ve watched one besides some clips here and there for years.
We currently have two media illiterate coaches, they constantly fail to read the room and answer questions in a way that keep fans engaged. Axe severed up a softball to Autry and he failed to answer with any conviction: what did the team not do you practiced and his answer is “we didnt help on the ball side”

That’s ONE issue, but what about offense what was the plan there? what about getting. Shredded in transition or what was wrong with the balls screen switches, etc. we don’t need the whole game plan but some insights might allow fans to believe you are actually coaching and not just standing on the sidelines passively collecting a pay check.
 
I truly believe Red knows what he wants to do, but I’m not sure they are getting their message across to the players.
I think you nailed it with this one sentence. Red's a smart guy and has a helluva basketball IQ. People who attend his events come away swearing he knows what to do and/or how to fix things.

The problem is that it seems clear that he can't teach his players well enough for them to implement what he wants to do schematically.

It's not an uncommon issue. I've worked with plenty of folks in my field who can identify a needed improvement, or know how to optimize a process, but lack the ability to get it done.
 
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I feel bad for Red. Its not like he doesn't know good basketball. He just can't get it out of the kids. He was really upset in this presser. As others have said he knows the stakes and I think you can feel it watching the team. They know his job is on the line.
 
I feel bad for Red. Its not like he doesn't know good basketball. He just can't get it out of the kids. He was really upset in this presser. As others have said he knows the stakes and I think you can feel it watching the team. They know his job is on the line.
In the last 10 years is there any proof that he knows good basketball? All I know he was comfortable sitting next to JB as the program became a disaster during the last years of JB coaching.
 
I feel bad for Red. Its not like he doesn't know good basketball. He just can't get it out of the kids. He was really upset in this presser. As others have said he knows the stakes and I think you can feel it watching the team. They know his job is on the line.
One might think these kids would play harder for the guy but it just doesn’t seem like they want to
 
In the last 10 years is there any proof that he knows good basketball? All I know he was comfortable sitting next to JB as the program became a disaster during the last years of JB coaching.
I think most of the in the know posters have indicated that Red was not at all “comfortable” with what was happening in the last years of JB.
 
One might think these kids would play harder for the guy but it just doesn’t seem like they want to
i think they started off doing so but have become disillusioned as the propsect of success becomes less likely...

if you guys think the players dont hear the noise from the fanbase, youre nuts.

it has to hurt them a lot to see the coach they committed to being dragged through the mud

the season isnt over and they are playing in an empty dome...gotta be tough to stay on level 5

thats why they gave red the "fighter" of the game vs tenn

im not saying red doesnt deserve criticism but its not like it can possibly HELP the team in any way, is all im saying

the guys like red...they want him to succeed and ...the more real it gets that he wont, the worse the effort will probably be
 
I think most of the in the know posters have indicated that Red was not at all “comfortable” with what was happening in the last years of JB.
Going to pile on JB a bit more here. His complete dictatorship of the program extended to him making all decisions, which likely leads to his coaching progeny not being all that good. It was always amazing to me to see other hall of fame coaches consulting with their assistants at the beginning of time outs. But never with JB.
 
I think you nailed it with this one sentence. Red's a smart guy and has a helluva basketball IQ. People who attend his events come away swearing he knows what to do and/or how to fix things.

The problem is that it seems clear that he can't teach his players well enough for them to implement what he wants to do schematically.

It's not an uncommon issue. I've worked with plenty of folks in my field who can identify a needed improvement, or know how to optimize a process, but lack the ability to get it done.
I didn't trust those people.
 
JB always knew he wasn’t stepping down for Hop. He wouldn’t even let Hop recruit players he would be coaching. Obviously, Hop knew this and decided to just move on. The problem was JW instantly extended JB because he was worried about transitioning to a new coach. I still can’t figure out why JB wasn’t fired after his second probation.
 
JB always knew he wasn’t stepping down for Hop. He wouldn’t even let Hop recruit players he would be coaching. Obviously, Hop knew this and decided to just move on. The problem was JW instantly extended JB because he was worried about transitioning to a new coach. I still can’t figure out why JB wasn’t fired after his second probation.
That's when the break should have been made. But that seems to also be a clue to what others have alluded to - JB made friends with the right people in the right places that allowed him to break such an agreement that the freaking president of the university announced.
 
You have one job, ref.
 

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I think you nailed it with this one sentence. Red's a smart guy and has a helluva basketball IQ. People who attend his events come away swearing he knows what to do and/or how to fix things.

The problem is that it seems clear that he can't teach his players well enough for them to implement what he wants to do schematically.

It's not an uncommon issue. I've worked with plenty of folks in my field who can identify a needed improvement, or know how to optimize a process, but lack the ability to get it done.
This is a great post. I agree with all of it even though you love to attack me. I think the problem is widespread because with the current world of college athletics, everybody is playing with each other for the first time. There is so little time to get everybody on the same page. I really like what Adrian wants to do. It's easy to say he can't get his guys to execute it and ultimately it could be his demise. I won't judge him on last year because I actually think he had that sham of a team playing their best at the end of the year. He should be judged on this full year to see if he can do the same with this much more talented team. Patience is hard for fans. Trust me, I walked out of the dome Saturday wanting to fire everyone in the building...even the fans ( who sucked too.)
 
This is a great post. I agree with all of it even though you love to attack me. I think the problem is widespread because with the current world of college athletics, everybody is playing with each other for the first time. There is so little time to get everybody on the same page. I really like what Adrian wants to do. It's easy to say he can't get his guys to execute it and ultimately it could be his demise. I won't judge him on last year because I actually think he had that sham of a team playing their best at the end of the year. He should be judged on this full year to see if he can do the same with this much more talented team. Patience is hard for fans. Trust me, I walked out of the dome Saturday wanting to fire everyone in the building...even the fans ( who sucked too.)
Thanks. I only “attack” you because of your caustic posting style. It’s a bit much, IMHO.
 
Going to pile on JB a bit more here. His complete dictatorship of the program extended to him making all decisions, which likely leads to his coaching progeny not being all that good. It was always amazing to me to see other hall of fame coaches consulting with their assistants at the beginning of time outs. But never with JB.
Final decisions -JB was definitely the last word but assistants praised him throughout the years for delegating authority, allowing them the freedom to prepare the players, lead practices etc that most head coaches didn’t. JB was far from a micromanager. In game decisions, and analysis, JB excelled at, I don’t know how teachable that characteristic is. I know some brilliant people who have trouble teaching what they know because it’s so innate to them. Knowing who and when to substitute, when to change tempo, the feel for a game is tough to teach, it’s gained by analyzing, experience, asking questions and one’s own innate ability to observe, motivate and understand. JB used timeouts to talk to the players immediately, not use the time to talk to the assistants in a circle before even speaking to the players - many coaches do this too. Probably good and poor coaches chose their own certain style.

I spoke years ago to a Villanova staff member who praised the freedom JB gave his assistants with the players, practices etc. He said that Massimino micromanaged everything that he used to even check how each player rolled their socks before travel. He said many head coaches are total control freaks but despite not liking JB for competitive reasons, that he didn’t lack candidates who wanted to be an assistant at SU.

JB was a prolific reader who studied and read about military history and their leaders. A teammate said JB was always very serious about learning how to motivate, strategize and assumed he had a very high basketball IQ, seeing possible plays before they ever occurred. He said Boeheim was learning when his teammates on trips were sleeping, playing cards, screwing around - Boeheim read. That was JB’s way and I imagine every successful coach devised his own way to excel and what to study, implement over time.

Look at Coach K’s record his first years at Duke - it took time. Duke fans were ticked that their successful coach, Bill Foster, quit and went to S Carolina to coach for more $ and the admin picked the young Army coach K to succeed him. He went 38-47 his first 3 years at Duke and there were very loud cries for his firing. If Scheyer had coach K’s same record, doubt he’d still be the coach there. I don’t know Red’s ability to excel, improve over time like some other coaches but the current college basketball big money atmosphere doesn’t give coaches the time to adjust, learn on the job over time anymore. It’s just a fact, patience can no longer be afforded to be a virtue leading to multiple coaches, multiple contracts over short periods of time for many programs. Sorry this is so long.
 
Our problem we have no playmakers. This team makes plays individually, but not as a team. They don’t create for simple plays. Everything is difficult except an occasional lob dunk.
We have the ACC assist leader from last year - this was supposed to help that problem, but apparently he still is learning the “system”
 

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