Refs didn't see the same angle as everyone at home

[NineOneSeven]

http://espn.go.com/chalk/story/_/id...as-vegas-favorites-2016-national-championship


Seems legit. It's only the national championship.

Edit- see link below

 

[kuethstheman]

New, improved link:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...efs-see-tv-broadcast-view-bounds-video-replay

 

[NineOneSeven]

New, improved link:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bas...efs-see-tv-broadcast-view-bounds-video-replay

This^

 

[pearl31]

horses__t

 

[CuseFaninVT]

Why?

Uggh.. All this technology and they still mess it up consistently.

The refs were astounding bad in the second half. I just don't know how people can say it didn't affect the outcome of the game. You can't protect a lead when guys are awarded buckets on shots that were clearly charges. When a guy steps out of bounds right in front of a ref with no call and he passes to someone for a layup...

 

[Cheriehoop]

I thought that might be the issue. It took about 10 replays on tv before they could slow it up enough to show it definitively.

 

[MSOrange]

I get why they can't do it in the regular season, but it seems like for the NCAA tourney, they could set up a replay command center similar to what the NBA has.

http://official.nba.com/replay/

 

[HoustonCuse]

I've seen worse. SUPLEX anyone?

 

[Full_Rebar]

Do you guys know how much it would cost to put John Adams in a room at the arena with access to all these camera angles? The NCAA is a non-profit, where would they get that kind of money?

 

[OttoMets]

How could anyone with a passing familiarity with college basketball think it's acceptable for Michael Stephens to officiate a national championship game?

Other than Karl Hess, he's the worst ref we see.

 

[longislandcuse]

CBB is a complete and utter clownshow.

Awful officiating.
Shot clock that goes on for eternity.
One and Done.

All swept under the rug because "look at our wonderous tournament every year!!!"

 

[Cusefan0307]

And people wonder why most people think the NBA is better. The rules and officials aren't able to help decide who's the champion.

 

[NineOneSeven]

It's actually hilarious they didn't have every angle

Just think about that for a minute... national championship, 2015, high tech cameras everywhere

It makes zero sense

Clowns

 

[pfister1]

Review? Who needs review. Tim Higgins and Jim Burr didn't need that stinking review to get calls wrong. They were able to do it real time, not cause any delay in the game and they were more than happy to "T" you up if you disagreed with their call.

Ahhhhhh..... the good old days, when officiating in college basketball was good.

Questions:

1. Has college basketball officiating gotten worse, or are we as fans just given the opportunity to see more angles, more slowed down replays and just generally have more opportunity to closely critique the calls that are made? I mean they stop action for replays on some plays so we see those over and over. They go to stop action after many fouls so we have the opportunity to see those plays over and over. I wonder if they sped up the pace of the game, meaning more action fewer stoppages if we'd still be as critical.

2. Would we be better off without replay? Is it better to know that (a) some calls are going to be missed and you just have to overcome that or (b) that some calls are going to get missed and depending on the rules you may or may not be able to review it and may or may not have the right replay angle available to get it correct.

 

[longislandcuse]

It's actually hilarious they didn't have every angle

Just think about that for a minute... national championship, 2015, high tech cameras everywhere

It makes zero sense

Clowns

It really should be a bigger deal than it is. It's so absurd to think this could happen.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Review? Who needs review. Tim Higgins and Jim Burr didn't need that stinking review to get calls wrong. They were able to do it real time, not cause any delay in the game and they were more than happy to "T" you up if you disagreed with their call.

Ahhhhhh... the good old days, when officiating in college basketball was good.

Questions:

1. Has college basketball officiating gotten worse, or are we as fans just given the opportunity to see more angles, more slowed down replays and just generally have more opportunity to closely critique the calls that are made? I mean they stop action for replays on some plays so we see those over and over. They go to stop action after many fouls so we have the opportunity to see those plays over and over. I wonder if they sped up the pace of the game, meaning more action fewer stoppages if we'd still be as critical.

2. Would we be better off without replay? Is it better to know that (a) some calls are going to be missed and you just have to overcome that or (b) that some calls are going to get missed and depending on the rules you may or may not be able to review it and may or may not have the right replay angle available to get it correct.

It would absolutely not be better off.

Just use it correctly. Like...maybe... use the same angles millions of people are seeing at home.

 

[andyw715]

It's all HD's fault.

Also the official's athleticism hasn't stayed in sync with the player's.

 

[pfister1]

It would absolutely not be better off.

Just use it correctly. Like...maybe... use the same angles millions of people are seeing at home.

I am not a fan of review. Seems like its most frequent use is to determine whether half a second should be added back on the clock or whether a flagrant foul should be assessed. I don't need perfection work at being better calling the live action and let the calls stand.

 

[kirbivore]

referees refused to foul Winslow out of the game on 2 charges that should have been called

 

[Briancuse]

The officiating has been horrible all year long.

 

[SBU72]

And people wonder why most people think the NBA is better. The rules and officials aren't able to help decide who's the champion.

The NBA officials do NOT apply the rules any fairer than the NCAA officials do. Or do the stars no longer get the benefit of the doubt (ie no fouls) or is walking now allowed in the NBA?

 

[SBU72]

Review? Who needs review. Tim Higgins and Jim Burr didn't need that stinking review to get calls wrong. They were able to do it real time, not cause any delay in the game and they were more than happy to "T" you up if you disagreed with their call.

Ahhhhhh... the good old days, when officiating in college basketball was good.

Questions:

1. Has college basketball officiating gotten worse, or are we as fans just given the opportunity to see more angles, more slowed down replays and just generally have more opportunity to closely critique the calls that are made? I mean they stop action for replays on some plays so we see those over and over. They go to stop action after many fouls so we have the opportunity to see those plays over and over. I wonder if they sped up the pace of the game, meaning more action fewer stoppages if we'd still be as critical.

2. Would we be better off without replay? Is it better to know that (a) some calls are going to be missed and you just have to overcome that or (b) that some calls are going to get missed and depending on the rules you may or may not be able to review it and may or may not have the right replay angle available to get it correct.

My opinion has become that all replays (all sports) be done at normal speed. I even wonder if close ups should be allowed. Reason; people play the game and people officiate the game. Both make mistakes. Its part of the game. If it talks 20X close up and a frame by frame analysis to determine that the fingernail of a player pushed the ball out of bounds, or a ball hit a blade of grass out of bounds, that is ridiculous.

 

[Sudano]

My opinion has become that all replays (all sports) be done at normal speed. I even wonder if close ups should be allowed. Reason; people play the game and people officiate the game. Both make mistakes. Its part of the game. If it talks 20X close up and a frame by frame analysis to determine that the fingernail of a player pushed the ball out of bounds, or a ball hit a blade of grass out of bounds, that is ridiculous.

It didn't take 20x close up and frame by frame analysis. The technology does not exist to accomplish review in a reasonable amount of time from the sideline. Normal review is easy to do to minimize significant errors at the end of games. It was one of about 7-8 replays in normal slow motion to clearly see it. Its not about the errors of the players or the errors of the refs. Its about getting it right at the end of games to make the competition fair. If it can't be done is some sort of acceptable timeframe then set a time limit.

 

[SBU72]

It didn't take 20x close up and frame by frame analysis. The technology does not exist to accomplish review in a reasonable amount of time from the sideline. Normal review is easy to do to minimize significant errors at the end of games. It was one of about 7-8 replays in normal slow motion to clearly see it. Its not about the errors of the players or the errors of the refs. Its about getting it right at the end of games to make the competition fair. If it can't be done is some sort of acceptable timeframe then set a time limit.

And I feel that by only using normal time replays you would reduce the significant errors and have that time limit.

 

[orangefog]

They should have used the tennis replay technology. Show the animated ball cruising toward his cartoonish finger and have a definitive call whether the ball touched his finger.