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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4411477, member: 5685"] Maybe they need to add an illegal contact foul on the out of bounds plays and/or roughing plays? A 15 yard penalty and auto first down is a huge penalty. IMO neither of the plays deserved that. But if you have a 5 yard penalty available for the refs, they can make a call not get yelled at and it isn't a game changing play. Kind of like running into vs roughing the kicker. So for Clemson they get a 4th and 10 at our 42 yard line vs having a 1st and 10 at our 32. For SU we get a 4th and 9 at our 26. [/QUOTE]