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Disclaimer: I was not able to watch eth SU-FSU game live. I watched a replay. The following are my first impressions, discussion is fair, keep it impersonal. I have no tyet read others' reviews and post game thoughts so as not to taint my review.
Good:
- The level of talent is not that much greater, at least with regards to the 1's. Our Orange were with FSU speed wise, and talent wise for the most part. I will not dispute the difference in talent levels after the ones, but I am encouraged when our ones hung with FSU.
- Shrader can throw, it ain't pretty, it ain't impressive, but he can throw. And he likes to hit several targets.
- We have receivers. The kids caught what they could and go forward.
- This team wants to win. The kids did not get down, the never gave in.
- The defense is ready to play with most any team out their.
- Adams catching passes out of the backfield is a good utilization - should be done a few more times per game.
- Tucker is Tucker.
- The O-Line is for real. Enjoy the ride.
- Babers said when he got here that he wanted two 1,00 yard rushers, we may see it.
Bad:
- ACC Refs suck. Get used to it.
- The play calling was "weak sauce", there were plays working and they should have been used more. This may be because Shrader has not fully learned the offense, Babers claims it takes 1.5 seasons to fully learn the offense. Regardless, there are more options with this team in this offense, use them.
- The soft defense was a bad plan, showing too much respect for FSU athletes, when their yardage may have been cut by 25% or more had the D played normal.
- The coaching calls - soft defense, weak offensive play calls - raise questions
Ugly:
- The 4th an 2 was a good call to go for it, but a bad play call, just my opinion. Regardless, Babers has growing confidence in this offense, this could be a good sign.
- The passing game needs work. The receivers look to be legit. Shrader, Gilbert, and Babers all have work to do.\
- Tucker is Tucker, but we need Adams and others to carry a portion of the load or Tucker will be spent before the end of the year. That is the wrong way to give Adams carries.
- We still have work to do- SU should have won the game outright.
- Smzyt is human, the timing stinks, but he is still a top kicker in the game.
- Babers said when he arrived that he wanted 4,000 or 5,000 yards passing, it won't be this fall...
Other musings:
- As noted above, SU should have won the game, part of this is on coaching and a little on the players. The coaches calling the game not to lose and the players playing without the same abandon that got them through September. I.e.: Pulling up on a tackle on the sideline when the D should ride the runner out of bounds is an experience issue, I know penalty flags, but riding a runner out of bounds is a minimum. Some tackles were weak, need to do better.
- Shrader is not going to work out the throwing motion and he will have issues on some throws. TD will come in handy down the road.
- The kids have grit, never give up. Sucks to the be the rest of the teams on the schedule.
- Babers has the team to get to a bowl, even 8 wins this fall. (assumes additional offense growth) Yes, it could go the other way, but I could see this as 2018-lite.
Have at it, my fellow Orange fans. These are just my take. See what the other experts - real coaches and arm chair alike - have to say. Regardless, I believe the Orange are going in a good direction.
Good:
- The level of talent is not that much greater, at least with regards to the 1's. Our Orange were with FSU speed wise, and talent wise for the most part. I will not dispute the difference in talent levels after the ones, but I am encouraged when our ones hung with FSU.
- Shrader can throw, it ain't pretty, it ain't impressive, but he can throw. And he likes to hit several targets.
- We have receivers. The kids caught what they could and go forward.
- This team wants to win. The kids did not get down, the never gave in.
- The defense is ready to play with most any team out their.
- Adams catching passes out of the backfield is a good utilization - should be done a few more times per game.
- Tucker is Tucker.
- The O-Line is for real. Enjoy the ride.
- Babers said when he got here that he wanted two 1,00 yard rushers, we may see it.
Bad:
- ACC Refs suck. Get used to it.
- The play calling was "weak sauce", there were plays working and they should have been used more. This may be because Shrader has not fully learned the offense, Babers claims it takes 1.5 seasons to fully learn the offense. Regardless, there are more options with this team in this offense, use them.
- The soft defense was a bad plan, showing too much respect for FSU athletes, when their yardage may have been cut by 25% or more had the D played normal.
- The coaching calls - soft defense, weak offensive play calls - raise questions
Ugly:
- The 4th an 2 was a good call to go for it, but a bad play call, just my opinion. Regardless, Babers has growing confidence in this offense, this could be a good sign.
- The passing game needs work. The receivers look to be legit. Shrader, Gilbert, and Babers all have work to do.\
- Tucker is Tucker, but we need Adams and others to carry a portion of the load or Tucker will be spent before the end of the year. That is the wrong way to give Adams carries.
- We still have work to do- SU should have won the game outright.
- Smzyt is human, the timing stinks, but he is still a top kicker in the game.
- Babers said when he arrived that he wanted 4,000 or 5,000 yards passing, it won't be this fall...
Other musings:
- As noted above, SU should have won the game, part of this is on coaching and a little on the players. The coaches calling the game not to lose and the players playing without the same abandon that got them through September. I.e.: Pulling up on a tackle on the sideline when the D should ride the runner out of bounds is an experience issue, I know penalty flags, but riding a runner out of bounds is a minimum. Some tackles were weak, need to do better.
- Shrader is not going to work out the throwing motion and he will have issues on some throws. TD will come in handy down the road.
- The kids have grit, never give up. Sucks to the be the rest of the teams on the schedule.
- Babers has the team to get to a bowl, even 8 wins this fall. (assumes additional offense growth) Yes, it could go the other way, but I could see this as 2018-lite.
Have at it, my fellow Orange fans. These are just my take. See what the other experts - real coaches and arm chair alike - have to say. Regardless, I believe the Orange are going in a good direction.
