Rhode Island 78-BC 72

[Marsh01]

Speechless. RI was 2-12. This program has hit rock bottom.

 

[dasher]

and rhody threw off the high scorer.

 

[orange79]

So, you leave an NCAA Cornell team to go to BC, and then you lose by 21 to Harvard? Hope he got a good payday.

 

[RF2044]

So, you leave an NCAA Cornell team to go to BC, and then you lose by 21 to Harvard? Hope he got a good payday.

He left Cornell because he was losing his three best players, after which Cornell would go back to being Cornell.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

This is why I think most people who want to make it a priority to regain "rivalry" status with BC in football and basketball are dating themselves as nostalgic old timers. They are a good solid, all-around athletic school, but by rivalry standards, I just don't get much of a buzz from them.

 

[RF2044]

This is why I think most people who want to make it a priority to regain "rivalry" status with BC in football and basketball are dating themselves as nostalgic old timers. They are a good solid, all-around athletic school, but by rivalry standards, I just don't get much of a buzz from them.

It has to do more with geographic proximity than rekindling some old nostalgic rivalry.

 

[orange79]

This is why I think most people who want to make it a priority to regain "rivalry" status with BC in football and basketball are dating themselves as nostalgic old timers. They are a good solid, all-around athletic school, but by rivalry standards, I just don't get much of a buzz from them.

Actually, I think more people want to rekindle the FB rivalry than hoops. Hoops was never much of a rivalry, IMO.

 

[upperdeck]

he didnt leave cornell because of losing the three players.. think money and where wives want to spend their husbands money.. there are only so many places to live the high life in ithaca.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

It has to do more with geographic proximity than rekindling some old nostalgic rivalry.

Sure that has something to do with it... but if that was a majority of the issue then why aren't we heartbroken to be leaving UConn and Rutgers?

 

[RF2044]

he didnt leave cornell because of losing the three players.. think money and where wives want to spend their husbands money.. there are only so many places to live the high life in ithaca.

Well, to be clear--he left because it was an enormous step forward in his coaching career to have the opportunity to take the helm of an ACC program. Of course, the $$$ that comes along with making that leap was also clearly a motivator.

But the decision was certainly a no brainer due to the fact that Cornell was losing two transcendent talents [by Ivy League terms] in Wittman / Foote--both of whom helped Cornell ascend to the top of the league and compete with traditional powerhouse programs in a way that the program had never been able to do in the modern era. With those guys departing [along with solid senior guard, Dale], Cornell was going to slip back into mediocrity.

If they'd been returning, then I bet he would have considered staying at Cornell, cranking out another great season, and wait for a better opportunity than BC to come available.

 

[RF2044]

Sure that has something to do with it... but if that was a majority of the issue then why aren't we heartbroken to be leaving UConn and Rutgers?

Simple--because it hurts those programs and elevates ours.

People would be a lot less excited about joining the ACC if BC / Maryland weren't already there and Pitt weren't coming along. Just ask BC about how well they fit into the southern oriented ACC after making the jump.

 

[NKR1978]

This is why I think most people who want to make it a priority to regain "rivalry" status with BC in football and basketball are dating themselves as nostalgic old timers. They are a good solid, all-around athletic school, but by rivalry standards, I just don't get much of a buzz from them.

I always wonder when their was a great rivalry with BC. They were never really a basketball power in the Big East and their range went from good to having some of the worst teams in conference history. They were never really much better than mediocre in football. Perhaps they should be a rivalry, but other than a few years of anger over the way they left for the ACC (that's long dissipated), I've never felt anything about them.

 

[NKR1978]

Simple--because it hurts those programs and elevates ours.

People would be a lot less excited about joining the ACC if BC / Maryland weren't already there and Pitt weren't coming along. Just ask BC about how well they fit into the southern oriented ACC after making the jump.

BC and their alumni, at least the ones I know, are completely happy in the ACC in spite of the Southern culture. Though I agree that I'm incredibly happy to be rejoining them and to have Pitt along with us.

 

[RF2044]

BC and their alumni, at least the ones I know, are completely happy in the ACC in spite of the Southern culture. Though I agree that I'm incredibly happy to be rejoining them and to have Pitt along with us.

Really? A few I know--while happy for the financial stability that the ACC provided--seem to whine repeatedly about feeling like redheaded stepchildren in the ACC.

 

[NKR1978]

Really? A few I know--while happy for the financial stability that the ACC provided--seem to whine repeatedly about feeling like redheaded stepchildren in the ACC.

To be fair, one of my BC alum friends is a HUGE Syracuse fan, so your friends may be more passionate about BC sports.

 

[RF2044]

To be fair, one of my BC alum friends is a HUGE Syracuse fan, so your friends may be more passionate about BC sports.

Yeah, I want to be clear that I'm generalizing sentiment that I've heard from three good friends [college buddies] who are die hard BC fans--might not be extrapolatable to the rest of the dozens of BC fans. ; )

But yes--they are hardcore BC, Pats, BoSox, etc.

 

[Marsh01]

Wofford beats Wake tonight as well. Great conference performances from the ACC this year!

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

Simple--because it hurts those programs and elevates ours.

People would be a lot less excited about joining the ACC if BC / Maryland weren't already there and Pitt weren't coming along. Just ask BC about how well they fit into the southern oriented ACC after making the jump.

Again, your post makes a lot of sense, I just don't really agree with it.

First of all, I don't buy into the whole "helps us by hurting them." Even if it does help to land us a couple recruits, it's the same pu$$y move as a Giants fan hoping Matt Ryan trips on a bar of soap in the shower this week. But even if it does help us get recruits, this isn't exactly the Florida-FSU-Miami love triangle, where you can clearly see how the tug of war effects the three schools on the national level. If we can't elevate ourselves past UConn and Rutgers on our own merit, then we are screwed anyway.

Second, I really don't get that same sense of excitement about joining BC and Maryland as you do. Is it important to rejoin them, sure, cause perhaps we don't go without that northern presence, but I really don't feel the excitement you speak of.

 

[cusetown1]

I feel bad for Steve, a good guy/coach.

 

[dinno28]

considering the level of play on the football field we could have used a game against BC and maybe we would have become bowl eligible

 

[obliterata]

Speechless. RI was 2-12. This program has hit rock bottom.

The WF/BC games will be riveting......

 

[RF2044]

Again, your post makes a lot of sense, I just don't really agree with it.

Second, I really don't get that same sense of excitement about joining BC and Maryland as you do. Is it important to rejoin them, sure, cause perhaps we don't go without that northern presence, but I really don't feel the excitement you speak of.

Do you travel to away football games? Because if not, that would explain the disconnect.

 

[Cuseman78]

Do you travel to away football games? Because if not, that would explain the disconnect.

Bingo. It seems as though the only fans who seem at all opposed to this are the basketball only fans who don't follow SU football (which I still will never get, by the way). If you follow SU football, there is NO WAY anybody would ever be opposed to this.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

The BC move made so much sense for Steve for professional and personal reasons, it was/is a great opportunity for him, He really needs to recruit better, Steve can coach. Steve is a great fit for BC, but man are they struggling. He has the catholic background ( personally and professional) and the connections to recruit those areas in Philly. He is a good fit at BC, just needs to win. If he wins there, I would imagine given the age of his kids, he will stay for a long time. Never thought he would be fighting for his job so quickly there

He is a great guy, wish him well over there but he is digging himself a hell of a hole. Like I said, he needs to recruit his way out of it. Dude can coach.

 

[OrangeMuskyFish]

Bingo. It seems as though the only fans who seem at all opposed to this are the basketball only fans who don't follow SU football (which I still will never get, by the way). If you follow SU football, there is NO WAY anybody would ever be opposed to this.

I don't have close to the finances to travel with the team, hopefully someday, and you guys could certainly be right about that making all the difference. That said, the second and third statements have me a bit confused. I'm not sure where this turned into a basketball vs football thing, although I do agree with you that rooting for one and not the other is a very annoying practice. Then when you say that "NO WAY anybody would ever be opposed to this," are you talking about the big picture of joining the ACC, or the fact I think a lot of people are making too big a deal about trying to become rivals with a rather bland athletic department, in BC.