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Rick Neuheisel thinks we can slow Fournette...

We've also made some piss themselves into TO's. Our pass defense troubles are becoming overstated.

You make me chuckle. They aren't overstated at all. Its a fact when we've played some schools of much lower quality we've had trouble with their QB's picking us apart. That is a true statement. If I didn't just get home from hospital and limited to one hand I would supply the stats.
 
You think 104th in the country in pass defense against the teams we've played so far is overstating their struggles? I wish I could be that blissfully ignorant.

Everything about our team thus far has been very positive this year(when Dungey is playing)... except pass defense. If we can improve from bad to mediocre in that aspect and everything else stays pretty steady, a bowl game is in the bag. Offense(with Dungey) is much better this year. Front 7 is doing the job against the run and getting pressure on QBs(not so good when LBs drop into coverage however). Special teams are way better. We aren't committing a ton of penalties unlike prior years, turnover margin is best in the country. it's that damn pass D. We have talent back there, but it is young talent (the veterans do not impress me) and we don't have depth.
 
orange_in_VA said:
You think 104th in the country in pass defense against the teams we've played so far is overstating their struggles? I wish I could be that blissfully ignorant.

He mentioned "over the years" - not sure it's been that bad. This year? Yeah, sure.

Ignorant? I Like you as a poster. Don't be a dick.
 
In defense of our pass defense, which has not inspired great confidence, Wolford and Rush are both pretty good passing QB's.

Both are accurate passers. Not saying our secondary is that good (tackling for instance), but we've played against a couple of decent QB's.

The soft coverage and keeping the LB's in tight for run D has resulted in much frustration.
 
qdawgg said:
You make me chuckle. They aren't overstated at all. Its a fact when we've played some schools of much lower quality we've had trouble with their QB's picking us apart. That is a true statement. If I didn't just get home from hospital and limited to one hand I would supply the stats.

With Bullough as our DC?

Low quality team / passing yards
2013
Wagner/34
Tulane/209
Wake/173
NC ST/226

2014
Nova/199
CMU/183
Wake/99

2015
URI/60
Wake/373*
CMU/430*

*So, if you mean recent years as in the last two weeks - yeah, sure.

Edit: also, get well!
 
With Bullough as our DC?

Low quality team / passing yards
2013
Wagner/34
Tulane/209
Wake/173
NC ST/226

2014
Nova/199
CMU/183
Wake/99

2015
URI/60
Wake/373*
CMU/430*

*So, if you mean recent years as in the last two weeks - yeah, sure.

Edit: also, get well!
wow. puts things in perspective. not gonna be pretty when clemmy and FSU come to town. (assuming the trend continues)
 
He mentioned "over the years" - not sure it's been that bad. This year? Yeah, sure.

Ignorant? I Like you as a poster. Don't be a dick.

I wasn't trying to be a dick. I was using statistics to show why it wasn't overstated.
If you're not worried about our pass defense good for you. I wish I could feel the same. In my opinion, it's ignorant bliss to not be very concerned about it.

No need to call me a dick for that.
 
You make me chuckle. They aren't overstated at all. Its a fact when we've played some schools of much lower quality we've had trouble with their QB's picking us apart. That is a true statement. If I didn't just get home from hospital and limited to one hand I would supply the stats.

I'm sorry for your loss ... your love life must be suffering something terrible. :)
 
We've also made some piss themselves into TO's. Our pass defense troubles are becoming overstated.

Wolford and Rush are 2 of the better passing QB's we will see all year. Very accurate and pretty quick releases as well as being somewhat mobile.

Even Gholston on FSU is not as good a passer as either of them.
 
Anyway, Fournette will get his yards as LSU will keep pounding. There are exceptions, Arky last year, LSU had about 40 yards total rushing in an abortion of a game.
we inexplicably only gave Fournette 5 carries in that game. Les Miles' sure does pull some head scratchers sometimes. in the bowl game against Notre Dame he had 10 carries for 140+ and 2 TD's in the first half. Then 1 carry in the 2nd half.

I HOPE Les has learned his lesson
 
we inexplicably only gave Fournette 5 carries in that game. Les Miles' sure does pull some head scratchers sometimes. in the bowl game against Notre Dame he had 10 carries for 140+ and 2 TD's in the first half. Then 1 carry in the 2nd half.

I HOPE Les has learned his lesson

Honestly I think Les does that stuff because he feels like they would least expect it ... but in earnest what they least expect from Les is for him to follow the book and do what a normal meathead coach would do. Giving Fournette the ball 35 times would really throw opposing coaches in the SEC for a loop.
 
Ric was reasonably well-informed on the matchup. Was the only national guy I have heard to mention we are on a 5th string QB (though technically he mentioned 3rd string), to temper the enthusiasm of a fan who called in wondering if LSU was in more trouble than was generally realized.
 
CuseOnly said:
Wolford and Rush are 2 of the better passing QB's we will see all year. Very accurate and pretty quick releases as well as being somewhat mobile. Even Gholston on FSU is not as good a passer as either of them.

Yeah - wouldn't be surprised to see steady improvement with our numbers until Clemson. Mostly due to less capable QB's, but also expect improvement.

If Watson is playing for Clemson... Could be interesting.
 
Ric was reasonably well-informed on the matchup. Was the only national guy I have heard to mention we are on a 5th string QB (though technically he mentioned 3rd string), to temper the enthusiasm of a fan who called in wondering if LSU was in more trouble than was generally realized.

That was probably SWC ... that guy gets questions in on every coaches show on the planet :)
 
Wolford and Rush are 2 of the better passing QB's we will see all year. Very accurate and pretty quick releases as well as being somewhat mobile.

Even Gholston on FSU is not as good a passer as either of them.
I'm not sure I'd put Wolford in that category just yet, but Rush certainly is. Rush will be on an NFL roster in two years, even if it's 3rd string/s cou t team. He's a really talented kid...we still just played horribly in the secondary against him.
 
I'm not sure I'd put Wolford in that category just yet, but Rush certainly is. Rush will be on an NFL roster in two years, even if it's 3rd string/s cou t team. He's a really talented kid...we still just played horribly in the secondary against him.

Playing against those 2 QB's was almost like watching the same freakin' game 2 weeks in a row. Both are really good passing QB's and IMO they are equally talented. Rush is a Junior and Wolford is a Soph I think, take another look at Wolford next year and compare them.

As far as remaining QB's left to play, there are some good ones but none as accurate as either of those 2. Some may be more dangerous in other ways but not in the passing game.
 
We should def be worried, we've made small time QB's and backups become really good looking game managers or better, over the last few years or so. What's a QB recruited to play at LSU have the potential to do?

This. He'll gain some confidence against us while licking his chops at this secondary.
 
I'm sorry for your loss ... your love life must be suffering something terrible. :)

It definitely is, I used to have trouble handling myself with two hands. Now with only one hand... :D
 
Yeah - wouldn't be surprised to see steady improvement with our numbers until Clemson. Mostly due to less capable QB's, but also expect improvement.

If Watson is playing for Clemson... Could be interesting.

That's a little too convenient. The pass D has been abysmal. It's not like Rush was always throwing perfect passes into tight windows. The teams going forward will all have better OLs and way more talent at WR than we have seen for far, even if we have already faced the most "capable" QBs on our schedule. BTW, I don't think thats anywhere near close to true, either.
 
That's a little too convenient. The pass D has been abysmal. It's not like Rush was always throwing perfect passes into tight windows. The teams going forward will all have better OLs and way more talent at WR than we have seen for far, even if we have already faced the most "capable" QBs on our schedule. BTW, I don't think thats anywhere near close to true, either.

Who on the upcoming schedule is a better QB?
 
007 said:
That's a little too convenient. The pass D has been abysmal. It's not like Rush was always throwing perfect passes into tight windows. The teams going forward will all have better OLs and way more talent at WR than we have seen for far, even if we have already faced the most "capable" QBs on our schedule. BTW, I don't think thats anywhere near close to true, either.

You think we'll give up more yds over that time?

That our pass D won't improve and despite playing some bad offenses with average QB's - our numbers will get worse?
 

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