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Passed away at 68. Much maligned QB of the late 60s. Wore number 44.
Whoever happens to see Nate first needs to punch him in the face. A-Hole.Am I the only one who thinks that Nate Mink's article today about this was incredibly disrespectful? For god's sake, the headline was about how the guy used to be jeered for wearing 44.
I mean...seriously?
I'm fine with it being mentioned, but why make it the focal point?At the time, there was an outcry over 44 being awarded to players who hadn't yet earned it--and who ended up not adding to the tradition associated w/the number. Panczyszyn had the misfortune to be one of, if not, the first to meet that fate.
It was a notable part of his career, so I'm not bothered by the mention. After all, it was true. I think a public obit (as opposed to one written by the family) should include that information to provide context.
I'm fine with it being mentioned, but why make it the focal point?
Am I the only one who thinks that Nate Mink's article today about this was incredibly disrespectful? For god's sake, the headline was about how the guy used to be jeered for wearing 44.
I mean...seriously?
Haven't seen the obit, could you link it?
Also just want to point out that this was a huge controversy at the time--one that I think ultimately led to the retirement of 44.
I don't get that. #44 was worn for decades after that.Also just want to point out that this was a huge controversy at the time--one that I think ultimately led to the retirement of 44.
I don't get that. #44 was worn for decades after that.
They were much more careful and parsimonious in giving out the number. The debate was over (a) the degree to which it should be a recruiting tool, and (b) how the 'cheapening' of the use of 44 could impact SU tradition.
At least as I can remember. Hey, it was the late '60's/early '70's when I was on the Hill. There were things I, um, enjoyed more than football.
Moontan, your question intrigued me, so I checked out who wore 44 after Rich. If Wikipedia is to be trusted (insert joke here), only 5 more wore 44. They were: "Mandel Robinson, Glenn Moore, Michael Owens, Terry Richardson and Rob Konrad."
I don't even remember Mandel Robinson or Glenn Moore.
Just found that interesting.
Glenn Moore showed flashes but never lived up to the number.
Matsu1 said:Mandel Robinson transferred to Wyoming and had a pretty good career. He transferred because Maloney was using him as a blocking back for a kid named Johnny Grubb.
Glenn Moore was during my time on the hill.They were much more careful and parsimonious in giving out the number. The debate was over (a) the degree to which it should be a recruiting tool, and (b) how the 'cheapening' of the use of 44 could impact SU tradition.
At least as I can remember. Hey, it was the late '60's/early '70's when I was on the Hill. There were things I, um, enjoyed more than football.
Moontan, your question intrigued me, so I checked out who wore 44 after Rich. If Wikipedia is to be trusted (insert joke here), only 5 more wore 44. They were: "Mandel Robinson, Glenn Moore, Michael Owens, Terry Richardson and Rob Konrad."
I don't even remember Mandel Robinson or Glenn Moore.
Just found that interesting.
I think his name was James Grubbs. He was from Edison, NJ and had one or two big games before either dropping out or flunking out.Who is Johnny Grubb? Mandel was there when Hurley and Monk were the offensive stars and running the ball all the time and Avery was a RB too. Don't remember Grubb at all.
OrangeAl said:I think his name was James Grubbs. He was from Edison, NJ and had one or two big games before either dropping out or flunking out.
The columnists don't write the headlines. All newspapers/sites have a separate writer that does that, often changing the tone of the written article.Another case of Mink Stink? Me thinks so.
Am I the only one who thinks that Nate Mink's article today about this was incredibly disrespectful? For god's sake, the headline was about how the guy used to be jeered for wearing 44.
I mean...seriously?
Good stuff. He was well before my time.It was a horrible article.
It failed completely to full and accurately describe Rich as a player.
The fact is that RP was a great - great - football player. He was a true triple threat. He could run, throw and kick.
He was the team's punter in 1968 - a very good one.
And he won the QB job at the beginning of the 1967 season only to get hurt in the opening game against Baylor.
He was worthy of No. 44 when it was given to him and he had some very good moments - at Wisconsin in 1969 - and some tough moments because of his health.
But, he ended his career quite well - he played halfback against BC in Archbold - rushed for nearly 100 yards and demonstrated once again what a great athlete he was.
He was one of my heroes when I first started watching the Orange.
My condolences to his family.
Glenn Moore showed flashes but never lived up to the number.