Rony Seikaly documentary

[SWC75]

Yeah, it really is AMAZING how productive and efficient he was - especially since he was sharing the court with 3 other ALL-TIMERS in DC, Stevie, and Sherm.

... especially considering where he first started out as a Frosh -
all he could do was run, gorilla dunk, and HACK dudes.

Ronnie as...
a freshman:
25.0m 12.9p 10.2r 0.7a 0.6s 3.0b 27.4+ 4.2mfg 2.4mft 2.6to 6.2pf 15.4- = 12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG
a sophomore:
27.3m 14.8p 11.4r 0.7a 1.1s 4.4b 32.4+ 4.6mfg 2.8mft 2.8to 5.2pf 15.4- =17.0NP 7.4OE 9.6FG
a junior:
27.1m 22.2p 12.0r 1.4a 1.1s 3.0b 39.7+ 6.4mfg 3.7mft 2.9to 4.3pf 17.3- = 22.4NP 12.1OE 10.3FG
a senior:
31.0m 21.0p 12.4r 0.8a 0.8s 3.1b 38.1+ 6.2mfg 3.7mft 3.2to 3.9pf 17.0- = 21.1NP 11.1OE 10.0FG

Compare to Chukwu:
19.5m 8.7p 10.7r 0.5a 1.4s 3.4b = 24.7+ 1.1mfg 1.6mft 1.9to 6.0pf = 10.6- = 14.1NP 6.0OE 8.1FG
and Sidibie last year:
8.6m 7.5p 10.5r 0.7a 2.0s 1.9b 22.6+ 3.0mfg 3.5mft 1.2to 9.3pf = 17.0- = 5.6NP 1.0OE 4.6FG

I think it helped him to be on the court with other talented players: the defense couldn't focus on any one of them. Hopefully we'll get some fo that next eyar. We should be able to put 5 guys on the court at once who can score!

 

[shu 49]

Yeah, it really is AMAZING how productive and efficient he was - especially since he was sharing the court with 3 other ALL-TIMERS in DC, Stevie, and Sherm.

... especially considering where he first started out as a Frosh -
all he could do was run, gorilla dunk, and HACK dudes.

True but he still almost had 13 points a game and 10 + Rebs. I loved him. What a time that was.

 

[KevMonstah]

Ronnie as...
a freshman:
25.0m 12.9p 10.2r 0.7a 0.6s 3.0b 27.4+ 4.2mfg 2.4mft 2.6to 6.2pf 15.4- = 12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG
a sophomore:
27.3m 14.8p 11.4r 0.7a 1.1s 4.4b 32.4+ 4.6mfg 2.8mft 2.8to 5.2pf 15.4- =17.0NP 7.4OE 9.6FG
a junior:
27.1m 22.2p 12.0r 1.4a 1.1s 3.0b 39.7+ 6.4mfg 3.7mft 2.9to 4.3pf 17.3- = 22.4NP 12.1OE 10.3FG
a senior:
31.0m 21.0p 12.4r 0.8a 0.8s 3.1b 38.1+ 6.2mfg 3.7mft 3.2to 3.9pf 17.0- = 21.1NP 11.1OE 10.0FG

Compare to Chukwu:
19.5m 8.7p 10.7r 0.5a 1.4s 3.4b = 24.7+ 1.1mfg 1.6mft 1.9to 6.0pf = 10.6- = 14.1NP 6.0OE 8.1FG
and Sidibie last year:
8.6m 7.5p 10.5r 0.7a 2.0s 1.9b 22.6+ 3.0mfg 3.5mft 1.2to 9.3pf = 17.0- = 5.6NP 1.0OE 4.6FG

A reasonable question, where are these numbers coming from? I suppose they are great
as 40 minute projections, but Seik was never close to those numbers for pts or rebs. You
have to project those, because he couldn't stay on the court. My friend after watching
several games of his ... "why didn't they give him number 5? because that's how many fouls
he commits a game." He went from a raw kid who fouled out of 11 games his freshman
year to being a really good center, one of the top few at SU, but don't use silly projections
to point out how good he was. His true stats are just fine.

Kev

 

[stuckinbig11]

He was STRONG when he went to the hope--none of this lay-it-off-the-backboard crap.

 

[OrangeDW]

Yeah, it really is AMAZING how productive and efficient he was - especially since he was sharing the court with 3 other ALL-TIMERS in DC, Stevie, and Sherm.

... especially considering where he first started out as a Frosh -
all he could do was run, gorilla dunk, and HACK dudes.

I’m a little too young to remember Rony in college - I remember him as a rookie on Miami and that’s my first memories of him.

I often read about how raw he was as a freshman.

I’ve gotta ask...how did he get 25 mpg on an 80s SU team if he was that weak?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

He was STRONG when he went to the hope--none of this lay-it-off-the-backboard crap.

It's a well known fact that Shaq copied Rony's dunk style.

 

[SWC75]

A reasonable question, where are these numbers coming from? I suppose they are great
as 40 minute projections, but Seik was never close to those numbers for pts or rebs. You
have to project those, because he couldn't stay on the court. My friend after watching
several games of his ... "why didn't they give him number 5? because that's how many fouls
he commits a game." He went from a raw kid who fouled out of 11 games his freshman
year to being a really good center, one of the top few at SU, but don't use silly projections
to point out how good he was. His true stats are just fine.

Kev

I don't use 'silly' projections. If you want to compare players you have to factor out the minutes played - but report them as well and I did. The stats show that he avoided fouls better as his career went along and his production increased: he was learning to play the game.

 

[OrangeDW]

Rony Seikaly and Glen Rice was a heavily underrated NBA Jam team.

 

[IthacaMatt]

I began watching SU hoops with Pearl. So, let's go with that era, say since 1980.
Rony's game against UF/Schintzius remains the best game I have ever seen from a SU center. It was a clinic. He hit everything and none of it was luck or good fortune.

The only other game nearly as good from an SU center also came from Rony, 2 rounds later, when he went for 26 and 11 against JR Reid and Scott Williams.

That run to the title game was on Rony's shoulders and that narrative gets lost every time.
I am not sure why.
He scored:
22pts/7reb vs. Georgia Southern
23pts/10reb vs. Western Kentucky
33pts/9reb vs. Florida
26pts vs.11reb North Carolina (imposing front line)
16pts/6reb vs. Providence
18 pts/10 reb vs. Indiana

He's easily SU's best center the last 40 years. Not even close.

My father-in-law, a huge gambler (now deceased), used to say that Seikaly was no good, and would always bust on me being an SU fan. This was back in the Pearl years. He used to say that Seikaly was always a step slow on defense.

And I told him that Seikaly was going to be a terrific center, it was just a matter of getting his footwork together. One of the few sports arguments with him that I won.

 

[IthacaMatt]

A hint to youth basketball league coaches. Prioritize drafting the best soccer players. They usually can run forever, know how to guard other players fighting for the ball not dependent on using their hands but foot speed to fend off opponents and they have a ‘leg up’ on good footwork.

Great observation!

 

[RF2044]

It's a well known fact that Shaq copied Rony's dunk style.

I saw an interview with Shaquille O'Neal where he confirmed that. That Seikaly was the first guy he saw who did the legs splaying thing when he dunked, he liked how it looked flashy, and so he emulated that early on.

 

[OttoMets]

A hint to youth basketball league coaches. Prioritize drafting the best soccer players. They usually can run forever, know how to guard other players fighting for the ball not dependent on using their hands but foot speed to fend off opponents and they have a ‘leg up’ on good footwork.

I could be confusing things, but wasn't Baye Keita a soccer player?

Regardless, he could run like no one else and was a plus defender at our most difficult position pretty much from his first game.

 

[SU94]

I could be confusing things, but wasn't Baye Keita a soccer player?

Regardless, he could run like no one else and was a plus defender at our most difficult position pretty much from his first game.

Akeem the Dream was a soccer player. I rate him as the 3rd-best center of all-time (behind Kareem and Wilt). He was so so so good, and so underrated. Fun fact: Akeem (then eventually Hakeem) is the NBA's all-time leading shot blocker. He had nearly 1000 more blocked shots than Ewing, who was hardly a slouch (to be fair, he played approx. 200 more games than Ewing).

 

[IthacaMatt]

When and where will this documentary air?
Thanks.

 

[tbonezone]

He is on wife #2 now. Martha Graeff. Some nice photo's of Rony's house.
PARAISO Dinner Celebration Hosted by Martha Graeff - World Red Eye
Martha Graeff, Rony Seikaly — Brickell Magazine

wow that patio dining table seats like 30 people. i've heard boeheim's only seats 7.5

 

[RF2044]

Martha Graeff, Rony Seikaly — Brickell Magazine

Holy crap -- even accounting for heels, how tall must she be?

 

[tbonezone]

Martha Graeff, Rony Seikaly — Brickell Magazine

Holy crap -- even accounting for heels, how tall must she be?

he has a type...

 

[SWC75]

wow that patio dining table seats like 30 people. i've heard boeheim's only seats 7.5

I don't want the .5 chair.

 

[stuckinbig11]

The bball staff should put together a video of Rony's dunks--one right after the other, over and over, and show it to all our big men, over and over.

 

[IthacaMatt]

The bball staff should put together a video of Rony's dunks--one right after the other, over and over, and show it to all our big men, over and over.

Rosie Bouie, too. What a terrific big man to start JB's career.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

he has a type...

Don't we all?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

wow that patio dining table seats like 30 people. i've heard boeheim's only seats 7.5

Plus there is room for a couple in the dog house.

 

[pfister1]

I’m a little too young to remember Rony in college - I remember him as a rookie on Miami and that’s my first memories of him.

I often read about how raw he was as a freshman.

I’ve gotta ask...how did he get 25 mpg on an 80s SU team if he was that weak?

He had to beat out George Papadokas and push Andre Hawkins go forward. The 80s hadn’t really gotten started yet.

 

[50YRsofCuse]

Since we are talking about Rony’s Moments of Glory”, I remember when he was a freshman and he blocked Pat Ewings dunk attempt (it was a slam dunk that Ron blocked from behind. Knew then that Ron was going to be special.