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orangenauburn
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hes beaten the meat to a poster of ray rice holding up the music city bowl trophy...awww their glory days
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They'll pass you bye...
Alive and well! Its been a crazy few days. Shocked like everyone about Schiano leaving for the NFL. Everything happened so quickly. Not happy about the timing obviously but can't blame coach for accepting one of about 30 NFL head coaching jobs in the country(guess a few people here were dead wrong about no one wanting him). Would have been worse if he left for another college job but I understand taking over the Bucs.
Glad he did the honorable thing and didn't wait until after signing day to announce he is leaving. It would have been better for Rutgers but if a recruit wants to leave now they can. I thought our recruting class would take a larger hit(like 50%) but as a few days have passed it seems like the majority of them will still be coming to Rutgers. It would help if we have our new coach in place before signing day(very likely). I am hearing Pernetti wants the new coach to retain some of our assistants which will likely rule out Addazio who will want to bring a whole new staff. Thinking Cristobal or Flood at the moment...
Wish we could have held on to Schiano longer as it seemed everything was in place to be successful. That said he will leave Rutgers in a much better position then when he arrived. The team is talented, the facilities are in place, and he will be handing someone a very good recruiting class(even if we lose a few).
Glad he did the honorable thing and didn't wait until after signing day to announce he is leaving. It would have been better for Rutgers but if a recruit wants to leave now they can. I thought our recruting class would take a larger hit(like 50%) but as a few days have passed it seems like the majority of them will still be coming to Rutgers. It would help if we have our new coach in place before signing day(very likely). I am hearing Pernetti wants the new coach to retain some of our assistants which will likely rule out Addazio who will want to bring a whole new staff. Thinking Cristobal or Flood at the moment...
Wish we could have held on to Schiano longer as it seemed everything was in place to be successful. That said he will leave Rutgers in a much better position then when he arrived. The team is talented, the facilities are in place, and he will be handing someone a very good recruiting class(even if we lose a few).
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I didn't get that impression from today's Star Ledger. They have a nice list on the front Sports page with all of the uncommitted recruits and those that had verbaled that are now shown as uncommitted (a fairly long list). Anything can happen between now and Wednesday, but I would bet that you guys take a significant hit.
Many of the recruits will be meeting on campus today and taking in the basketball game together. They could be taking other visits(like JPO) instead but most of them want to play together and have formed a bond. Like I said we will lose a few but I will be surprised if it is as many that people think. In addition we are still in the running for Hamilton and Fuller which is amazing. We need a coach in place by Monday though or who knows...
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I think RU lands Fuller, not Hamilton ... agree there will not be many decommits
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Hasn't it been that way for a number of years? The only thing to show for it has been a 3rd place Big East finish. Yes, I realize that the Orangemen haven't been near a 3rd place finish for quite a while.
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In 2010 SU ended 4-3, 1 game behind the three teams that tied for 1st at 5-2. I know that means we came in 4th, but still . . . .
Coming off of a 9 win season and bringing back almost the entire team was pointing to a big year in 2012. Not to mention recruiting, although always strong, was breaking into a new level this year. We will never know what would have happened but this job is not a rebuild. The next coach(hopefully Cristobal) will inherit a very good team and a great recruiting class.
I think we will have a new coach in place by tomorrow either way...
Would be thrilled with either. Fuller announces today and without a head coach in place he really has to love Rutgers to commit being that he has 40 other offers to pick from. Hamilton will have to bond with the new coach quickly to hold off the Gators. Muschamp and six of his assistants came in full force to Hamiltons house this week to put on the full court press.
Honestly, I'm surprised that we still are in the conversation with either of them. It shows Rutgers has become a lot more then just Greg Schiano when the #1 and #2 recruits in NJ are still strongly considering Rutgers without a head coach...
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whatever makes you sleep easier but in reality, the two kids had rutgers on their short list and were maybe even leans. i can imagine it's pretty hard to just cut one of your leaders off the list especially when it's the home team and you were seriously thinking staying home. now not so much.
i'd expect fuller to go play for Rich Rod and that would be his best move if he truly does not want to consider a position change; especially having zero idea what offense and schemes the 'new' rutgers will run.
as for hamilton, i'd still expect him to stay home because he has so much invested at this point. if you think it's rutgers and not schiano i think you're crazy but time will tell in the next few years; when we see where these type of kids ultimately choose, plus a new coach can't sell the snake oil like schady can with conference affiliation and all.
rumor mill sure seems like it's pushing towards flood.
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Or it just proves there is a lot of pressure by their family to play locally. You shouldn't be surprised that you are still in the conversation with your own states recruits.
Any way you slice it these two kids can go anywhere in the country to play and they know it. Who knows if either pick RU or not but I think you would have to agree that many presumed everything would collapse when Schiano took the Bucs job and that just hasn't happened.
Flood was at the basketball game with many of our recruits yesterday and also interviewed with Pernetti yesterday afternoon so that is why his name is leading the rumor mill. I heard Flood speak at halftime yesterday and came away quite impressed. My first choice is still Cristobal(who I think would be a tremendous fit as he is a great recruiter and good game day coach) but Flood is growing on me. Addazio will be getting an interview today I was told...
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I think having Schiano leave this late really helps you with retaining recruits. if he left 2 weeks ago, i think it would have allowed recruits more time to visit other places and look around.
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agreed. the late timing actually works to their advantage. there is no time for the kids to visit other schools and look around. and some kids are out of official visits. it would be wise for the kids on the fence to hold off on signing.
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other guys have been interviewed as well. floods name is mentioned the most right now because of the press conference. the presser was a bit curious and a pretty big tip off that they are going to hire him. look, how can anyone say all the assistants are going to stay if they hire from outside? No outside head coach candidate in their right mind would agree to taking the job and not having a say in who the assistants are.
anybody with an ounce of smarts did not believe everything would collapse because of the late timing. as was mentioned before had this happened 2 or 3 weeks ago then there would have been a lot more kids on the fence and visiting other places.
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It still kills me that we lost a game to Rutgers that we should have won by 30 points.
Had we done what we should have done, Schiano would probably have never have had a chance for the Bucs job.
It truly can be a game of inches - in every sense.
You are reading into the presser to much. Flood, as the interim head coach, had to come out and try to add some stability right now while coaches from all over the country are hard at work coming after our recruits. Many of them have multiple choices and our assistants and AD are doing a great job trying to keep this class together. You are having a tough time holding onto your recruits with the longest tenured coach in the BE so don't underestimate how hard it is to hold onto higher profile recruits with no head coach.
I am hearing that some of our top outside choices for coaches are willing to retain certain assistant coaches from RU. I would think that any new head coach who is smart would realize the value of having a few outstanding NJ/PA/NY recruiters on staff and would be excited about it. Cristobal mixed with some of the top RU assistants would be my first choice although I hear some new canidates have emerged as of late.
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you're hearing stuff from reading message boards.
flood himself might be out of job and the presser was no doubt at the instruction of the ad.
a couple of assistants are usually retained in any coaching change but usually not more than 1 or 2. if most are retained this year i wouldnt be to sure about next year as the new coach will undoubtedly want to line up his own people.
