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Message: [QUOTE="STEVEHOLT, post: 3072894, member: 522"] scammers is all they are..the dealers that is. When I lived in Phoenix metro area I leased a Nissan Altima. LEASED...not bought. cheezy Jerry Lundergaard style salesman tried to sell me this sealant called "the desert protection package" which would somehow prevent my car from falling pray to the trials of desert living. I told him to walk into the ocean which was like hours away at rocky point. He told me that "they're going to ding you" on returning the car at lease end if I didnt purchase the package. I told him I'd take my chances. Fast forward to a few months before my lease was up. I take the car to Car Max, they offer me more money for the car than was left on the payoff... so I won... hear that cheezy jerry lundergaard Nissan of Tempe wanna be salesman? [/QUOTE]