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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 2316092, member: 137"] People act like Doug somehow dissed the university. He didn't. He didn't get 1/2 the support that Shafer and especially Babers have regarding facilities and the NFL came calling. Doug saved this program. The negative feelings towards him are completely undeserved. What is it that has you guys sooooooooooooo freaking upset? He took Hack with him? BG must think Babers is the freaking devil. You guys come off looking like spoiled brats. Please fill me in, PM if necessary if you don't want to create a thread firestorm but I think it's ridiculous. If we didn't hire Doug when we did, and went with some name like Turner then program would still be so buried you might find it in China if you dig through the planet. [/QUOTE]