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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 2317470, member: 137"] So what, teams lose games. I suppose the only measure of success then is a 16-0 perfect season? The fact is I didn't say he was god, but he's doing alot better with Bortles than most would have predicted. And yeah I like Doug, I think what he did here was just short of miracle, gave the Bills their first winning season in how many years? And is 2-1 his first year with the Jags with a QB most wouldn't want anywhere near their own camps. [/QUOTE]