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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 2432319, member: 874"] He took a team with 8 consecutive years of losing records and had a winning record in his secomd year. Stating his two year record outside of context is silly. If he gets a pass on year one, doesn't that give him a winning record at Syracuse? The guy is a good coach. Why are people so reluctant to admit it? Has he made mistakes? Yeah. What coach hasn't? Is he Belichick, Parcells, or Coughlin? No. I don't think anyone has claimed he is. If the only good coaches are the ones that are in or will be in the HOF, that's an awfully short list. [/QUOTE]