Schematic advantage

[Newhouser]

in reading various threads and hearing about Dino's scheme and the challenges it offers, I have come to recognize that my limited football IQ prevents me from understanding the big picture.

IN theory - other than pace which I think is hype and not fact in terms of our play - what is the schematic design supposed to be accomplishing in Dino's offense? We just seem so limited in what we run/call, I am missing the big picture. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I need to get re-focused on what we are supposed to be rather than what we aren't.

 

[TheCusian]

in reading various threads and hearing about Dino's scheme and the challenges it offers, I have come to recognize that my limited football IQ prevents me from understanding the big picture.

IN theory - other than pace which I think is hype and not fact in terms of our play - what is the schematic design supposed to be accomplishing in Dino's offense? We just seem so limited in what we run/call, I am missing the big picture. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I need to get re-focused on what we are supposed to be rather than what we aren't.

The Dino Babers offense

Start here

 

[Newhouser]

The Dino Babers offense

Start here

Thank you very much.

 

[tbonezone]

we ain't playing fast. perhaps that's to keep our deficits down.

 

[TheCusian]

we ain't playing fast. perhaps that's to keep our deficits down.

we can’t protect, ain’t nothing working right

 

[FrancoPizza]

we need to be able to run when there's only 6 in the box. The failure to do this effectively shuts everything else down.

 

[OrangeTarheel]

Thanks for reposting this, discouraging to be reminded of losing to Clemson when our line still was not good but only giving up two sacks. We gave up more than that to Holy Cross this year.

 

[DMDMD]

The Dino Babers offense

Start here

A lot of that article is very prescient.

"Max coverages that dare Syracuse to beat opponents mano y mano in the trenches are a big problem "

"At some point, you face opponents that will dedicate the necessary resources to eliminate your favorite plays and areas of the field. If there’s an area of the field where you can’t hold up to honest numbers and there’s another area of the field where you can’t beat numbers, then you’re going to do down. "

"Dino Babers’ teams haven’t worked quite like that. His 2013 Eastern Illinois Panthers are his only team to reach 5.0 ypc and his Bowling Green teams never quite established the run with the ferocity of Briles’ Baylor squads. It’s no doubt challenging to build a downhill run game, even with arguably the best downhill run scheme in college football history, and Babers hasn’t stayed in any one job long enough to have coached OL that he hand picked and developed over multiple seasons. "

 

[Cuse12]

Hate to say it but we are overthinking the whole thing, the offense works when we have a competent line and competent qb.

 

[Newhouser]

Hate to say it but we are overthinking the whole thing, the offense works when we have a competent line and competent qb.

In theory anyway. Not sure it has been proven it works consistently in a p5 confefence.

 

[Cuse12]

In theory anyway. Not sure it has been proven it works consistently in a p5 confefence.

I know what you are saying, and I agree it has faults for sure. Like the running game has not been proven. But, I must say again if we have a good OL and QB things seem to hum.

 

[TheCusian]

In theory anyway. Not sure it has been proven it works consistently in a p5 confefence.

Briles did it for years with a very similar offense; Clawson has been running a similar thing at Wake. Tons and tons of places have borrowed from it. Honestly, the truth is that the scheme is more popular and bits of it are so common place - the question isn’t “can it work consistently in a P5 conference” but more “now that it’s more known, can we innovate from it”