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Message: [QUOTE="Fjoinkay, post: 23500, member: 604"] Those are Rahme's words not mine. I agree with everything else he wrote in the article about the Toledo game, but I'm struggling to wrap my head around that phrase. Sure, if SU loses to Toledo it will feel like a punch in the stomach and it might even be embarrassing even though most people realize that Toledo is a good football team. SU's 'season could start to slip away'? I thought the team goal was to win the conference? Toledo is in the MAC. Again, sure the way SU is playing right now winning the conference is a long shot, but they haven't played a conference game yet. Heck, a loss to Toledo could be the turning point to a great season. We don't know! I see no need for doom and gloom with a 2-1 record in September. [/QUOTE]