SEC West 2-3 so far in Bowls. | Syracusefan.com

SEC West 2-3 so far in Bowls.

I was going to wait after the Alabama/OSU game to post something similar.

The experts need to take a step back and take a hard look at the SEC West. All year we heard two main things:

- They're the best division in the land, in the best conference in the land
- Their weak OCC doesn't matter because they play each other

Maybe their weak OCC does matter. Maybe it matters to the point that you can't honestly evaluate them against other P5 schools. Playing each other means nothing if all you're basing it on is "eye-test", recruiting and notoriety.
 
A&M would have lost too if Trickett didn't Have to hang up the cleats do to concussions.
 
Not denying being overrated a bit but I think judging by bowls isn't a good metric. Bowls are about motivation as much as talent. I'd look at the regular season records they have against other conferences (and the sec east) as the best metric. Bama blew out wvu. Auburn beat k state. Lsu beat Wisconsin. Ole miss blew out Boise, etc.
 
Not denying being overrated a bit but I think judging by bowls isn't a good metric. Bowls are about motivation as much as talent. I'd look at the regular season records they have against other conferences (and the sec east) as the best metric. Bama blew out wvu. Auburn beat k state. Lsu beat Wisconsin. Ole miss blew out Boise, etc.

So... some games matter and others, like the one game at the end of the season aimed at showing who you are as a team, that game doesn't matter as much?
 
I cant wait until FSU beats the stupid uniforms off Oregon. ACC , ACC , ACC , ACC......
 
So... some games matter and others, like the one game at the end of the season aimed at showing who you are as a team, that game doesn't matter as much?
Well, yeah. Games when you have a chance to win a conference or national title mean a lot more than anything after those aspirations are gone. There are always coaching issues (e.g., chavis at lsu) that impact things during bowl season. It's pretty simple psychology. How you describe it (the one game aimed at showing who you are...) is not how it's seen by some of these teams or fan bases. That's what the first 12 games are for.
 
Well, yeah. Games when you have a chance to win a conference or national title mean a lot more than anything after those aspirations are gone. There are always coaching issues (e.g., chavis at lsu) that impact things during bowl season. It's pretty simple psychology. How you describe it (the one game aimed at showing who you are...) is not how it's seen by some of these teams or fan bases. That's what the first 12 games are for.

Mostly disagree with this thesis. It may be true for a few select Kings now and again, but not for the vast majority of the rest, otherwise the same would apply to those teams who won the bowls, correct?

Cheers,
Neil
 
Paul Johnson was great. "For at least a week or two we don't have to hear about the SEC."

I've lived in Atlanta before. The SEC hype there in that town is just nauseating.

If Shafer ends up not making it at SU, SU should throw a bajillion dollars at Johnson to be the next head coach.
 
Well, yeah. Games when you have a chance to win a conference or national title mean a lot more than anything after those aspirations are gone. There are always coaching issues (e.g., chavis at lsu) that impact things during bowl season. It's pretty simple psychology. How you describe it (the one game aimed at showing who you are...) is not how it's seen by some of these teams or fan bases. That's what the first 12 games are for.

Coaches have been fired for not winning end-of-year bowl games. There's plenty of motivation regardless of the team.
 
Not denying being overrated a bit but I think judging by bowls isn't a good metric. Bowls are about motivation as much as talent. I'd look at the regular season records they have against other conferences (and the sec east) as the best metric. Bama blew out wvu. Auburn beat k state. Lsu beat Wisconsin. Ole miss blew out Boise, etc.
But its ok every other year to trumpet how great the SEC is , because of the bowls. Most of them don't play any good out of conference opponents until the bowls, so how else to compare?
 
SEC honks have to own these losses. What excuse was their for Auburn losing? They didn't like their hotel in Tampa?
The SEC can't play invincibility when its in their favor and just claim oh well when they lose. The conference doesn't play many OOC regular season games and because they beat them selves they are awesome.
If Alabama doesn't beat #Ohio then the conference won't be the best conference for 2014.
 
No one has claimed it was.
I guess no one is now basically the entire media covering college football including the 1000 lb gorilla ESPN, CBSSports, writers from SI.

I am not talking about the nut jobs who call into the Finebaum show the media has bought the SEC hype.

It is a great conference but when it fails it needs to be pointed out since they have no problem doing that stupid SEC chant. I went to the Belk Bowl on Tuesday and UGA fans did that stupid chant. Why? Because they won and wanted to play the conference card. When they lose they need to hear that stupid chant as well.
 
I guess no one is now basically the entire media covering college football including the 1000 lb gorilla ESPN, CBSSports, writers from SI.

I am not talking about the nut jobs who call into the Finebaum show the media has bought the SEC hype.

It is a great conference but when it fails it needs to be pointed out since they have no problem doing that stupid SEC chant. I went to the Belk Bowl on Tuesday and UGA fans did that stupid chant. Why? Because they won and wanted to play the conference card. When they lose they need to hear that stupid chant as well.

Everything on Espn I've heard has acknowledged the pac 12 is better.
 
Everything on Espn I've heard has acknowledged the pac 12 is better.
Are you serious? Brent Musberger during the broadcast last night was saying the SEC's number one status was never in doubt until what TCU and Ga. tech did yesterday.
 
Are you serious? Brent Musberger during the broadcast last night was saying the SEC's number one status was never in doubt until what TCU and Ga. tech did yesterday.

So does Musberger speak for ESPN?

Sudanos and Schlereth have consistently said on their show that SEC isn't number one. I'm sorry if I don't buy into the SEC CONSPIRACY narrative.
 
So does Musberger speak for ESPN?

Sudanos and Schlereth have consistently said on their show that SEC isn't number one. I'm sorry if I don't buy into the SEC CONSPIRACY narrative.
I have no idea who Sudanos is and Schlereth is an NFL analyst if they are your anti-SEC people sorry. ESPN is in bed with the SEC that was obvious with the SEC network investment.
 
docsu said:
So does Musberger speak for ESPN? Sudanos and Schlereth have consistently said on their show that SEC isn't number one. I'm sorry if I don't buy into the SEC CONSPIRACY narrative.

So in your world, the SEC is the scrappy underdog that gets no respect?!
 
I have no idea who Sudanos is and Schlereth is an NFL analyst if they are your anti-SEC people sorry. ESPN is in bed with the SEC that was obvious with the SEC network investment.

Not why your so defensive. I've heard very little that SEC is tops this year. Sorry?
 

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