Secret Scrimmages

[sufandu]

Exhibition games don’t go on your resume

Follow the whole conversation. Exhibition games are against inferior competition. Secret scrimmages can be against peer programs without hurting the resume.

 

[cuseincincy]

You can either do 2 open scrimmages against non D-1 teams or an open scrimmage vs non D-1 and a secret scrimmage vs a D-1 team.

It must be slightly different than this as a quick look at the list posted showed Cincinnati, Duquesne and GW all having multiple secret scrimmages. Maryland scrimmaged both Cincinnati and UVA also.

 

[MSOrange]

It must be slightly different than this as a quick look at the list posted showed Cincinnati, Duquesne and GW all having multiple secret scrimmages. Maryland scrimmaged both Cincinnati and UVA also.

Good point. I didn't explain that well. You can do a maximum of 2 and they can be either open vs non division 1 schools or closed vs division 1 schools or a combination.

 

[JustPherU]

Follow the whole conversation. Exhibition games are against inferior competition. Secret scrimmages can be against peer programs without hurting the resume.

Exhibition games dont have to be against inferior competition.Syracuse played the Soviet Union national team once upon a time. What rule says you have to play a inferior opponent?

 

[OburgCuse]

It’s as simple as this

Exhibitions = $$$$$ from tickets/concessions/parking etc

Secret scrimmages = No $$$$


Obviously we give up ability to play better competition but I think we have faired well for most part typically early season except for a few rare occasions. Attendance surely won’t be the same as regular season crowds but I’m assuming season tickets still include exhibitions costs baked into their package plus many basketball starved fans are just itching to get out there and see some live game action which brings in more as well. With the secret scrimmages there would be a nice chunk of change that we’d miss out on and I’m sure Athletic dept doesn’t want that.

 

[bballbeadle]

It’s as simple as this

Exhibitions = $$$$$ from tickets/concessions/parking etc

Secret scrimmages = No $$$$


Obviously we won’t get the same regular season crowds but I’m assuming season tickets will still include exhibitions baked into their package plus many basketball starved fans are just itching to get out there and see some live game action which brings in more as well.

I am one of those itching fans. Damn, it itches!

 

[HOFCeluck]

You’re a se-

Oh god damn it OttoinGrotto

 

[SWC75]

Now that we've read this, do we have to die?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Exhibition games dont have to be against inferior competition.Syracuse played the Soviet Union national team once upon a time. What rule says you have to play a inferior opponent?

I don't remember how we did vs the Soviets, but didn't we lose once to Marathon Oil or another AAU team.

Edit: This article from 1994 said Marathon went 8-0 vs the Big East.

"Sarge" Is Man Behind Marathon Oil Teams

For the past 45 years, when college basketball coaches have needed to schedule pre-season games they've dialed up Glen Sergent. Known simply as Sarge, he is the man behind the Marathon Oil teams that…

www.oklahoman.com

 

[Cheriehoop]

It’s as simple as this

Exhibitions = $$$$$ from tickets/concessions/parking etc

Secret scrimmages = No $$$$


Obviously we give up ability to play better competition but I think we have faired well for most part typically early season except for a few rare occasions. Attendance surely won’t be the same as regular season crowds but I’m assuming season tickets still include exhibitions costs baked into their package plus many basketball starved fans are just itching to get out there and see some live game action which brings in more as well. With the secret scrimmages there would be a nice chunk of change that we’d miss out on and I’m sure Athletic dept doesn’t want that.

Wonder if that’s still true. Season ticket holders get the exhibition tickets with their package. Doubt that there‘s a huge sale of walk up tickets plus we pay these teams to come here and play I believe. Doubt it’s a big money maker and might lose $.

 

[OrangeDW]

It’s as simple as this

Exhibitions = $$$$$ from tickets/concessions/parking etc

Secret scrimmages = No $$$$


Obviously we give up ability to play better competition but I think we have faired well for most part typically early season except for a few rare occasions. Attendance surely won’t be the same as regular season crowds but I’m assuming season tickets still include exhibitions costs baked into their package plus many basketball starved fans are just itching to get out there and see some live game action which brings in more as well. With the secret scrimmages there would be a nice chunk of change that we’d miss out on and I’m sure Athletic dept doesn’t want that.

Yeah, my first thought was how much does it cost to play these games, where there is no money coming in? Gotta pay to fly somewhere to play a good team? Plus meals and hotels? I imagine teams split the costs? Otherwise, who the heck would ever agree to flying somewhere else for one of these?

 

[sufandu]

Exhibition games dont have to be against inferior competition.Syracuse played the Soviet Union national team once upon a time. What rule says you have to play a inferior opponent?

That game was 33 years ago.

Here is an article from 2004 about exhibition rule changes.

NCAA Puts Limits on Exhibition Basketball

Major colleges will no longer be allowed to schedule men's exhibition basketball games against noncollegiate opponents, such as foreign teams, AAU clubs or Athletes in Action.

www.latimes.com

And if you can't play open exhibitions against other D1 teams as someone else pointed out, you have to play inferior teams outside of secret scrimmages.

 

[sufandu]

I don't remember how we did vs the Soviets, but didn't we lose once to Marathon Oil or another AAU team.

Edit: This article from 1994 said Marathon went 8-0 vs the Big East.

"Sarge" Is Man Behind Marathon Oil Teams

For the past 45 years, when college basketball coaches have needed to schedule pre-season games they've dialed up Glen Sergent. Known simply as Sarge, he is the man behind the Marathon Oil teams that…

www.oklahoman.com

We beat the Soviets. The Soviets went 2-6 during their tour against college teams. I don't know who else they played.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Exhibition games dont have to be against inferior competition.Syracuse played the Soviet Union national team once upon a time. What rule says you have to play a inferior opponent?

We are Syracuse. All are inferior.