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Brandon Triche, as senior
33.8m 16.1p 4.1r 4.3a 1.5s 0.1b 26.1+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.2to 2.5pf 14.7- = 11.4NP 7.1OE 4.3FG
And:
Gene Waldron as a senior (1983-84)
28.0m 13.3p 3.1r 6.2a 2.7s 0.2b 25.5+ 4.7mfg 1.0mft 4.1to 4.6pf 14.4- = 11.1np 7.6oe 3.5fg
Michael Brown as a sophomore (1984-85)
23.4m 14.3p 3.9r 2.3a 1.4s 0.2b 22.1+ 6.0mfg 0.2mft 2.8to 3.1pf 12.1- = 10.0NP 8.1OE 1.9FG
Greg Monroe as a senior (1986-87)
31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- = 14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG
Howie Triche as a senior (1986-87)
30.1m 15.6p 6.3r 3.1a 1.4s 0.2b 26.6+ 6.5mfg 1.0mft 2.6to 3.8pf 13.9- = 12.7NP 8.1OE 4.6FG
Matt Roe as a sophomore (1987-88)
24.3m 15.2p 4.0r 3.2a 0.8s 0.1b 23.3+ 7.0mfg 0.4mft 1.6to 3.2pf 12.2- = 11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Mike Hopkins as a senior (1992-93)
28.2m 13.1p 5.2r 3.1a 2.1s 0.5b +24.0 5.7mfg 1.1mft 3.1to 3.7pf -13.6 = 10.4NP 6.3OE 4.1FG
Michael Lloyd as a junior (1994-95)
31.9m 15.7p 4.0r 6.5a 2.5s 0.1b +28.8 6.7mfg 2.0mft 3.8to 3.0pf -15.5 = 13.3NP 7.0OE 6.3FG
Lazarus Sims as a senior (1995-96)
35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 = 11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG
Jason Hart as a junior (1998-99)
32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 = 12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG
Alan Griffin 2000-01 as a senior (2000-01)
36.7m 11.8p 3.6r 7.1a 2.1s 0.2b +24.8 6.2mfg 1.4mft 3.1to 2.3pf -13.0 = 11.8NP 4.2OE 7.6FG
DeShaun Williams as a freshman (1999-2000)
16.0m 15.7p 3.8r 4.2a 2.8s 0.2b +26.7 7.4mfg 0.4mft 3.3to 3.8pf -14.9 = 11.8NP 7.9OE 3.9FG
Gerry McNamara as a freshman (2002-03)
35.3m 15.1p 2.6r 5.0a 2.5s 0.1b +25.3 7.1mfg 0.3mft 2.8to 2.2pf -12.4 = 12.9NP 7.7OE 5.2FG
Kueth Duany as a senior (2002-03)
27.0m 16.3p 5.4r 3.0a 1.5s 0.8b +27.0 7.2mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.2pf -14.4 = 12.6NP 7.5OE 5.1FG
Billy Edelin as a junior (2004-05)
15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- = 9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG
Josh Wright as a sophomore (2005-06)
12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- = 10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG
Eric Devendorf as a freshman (2005-06)
27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- = 11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Andy Rautins as a junior (2008-09)
28.6m 14.6p 4.6r 4.2a 2.0s 0.2b 25.6+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 2.8to 2.8pf 14.0- = 11.6NP 6.2OE 5.4FG
Comment: I said before the season that I hoped Brandon Triche could be this year’s version of what Kueth Duany was a decade before: a solid, consistent all-round senior who leads the younger players by example. Other posters said they would be disappointed if that was all he was because they thought his capabilities were greater than that. I actually think he fell short of what I was describing as he was so inconsistent. But Kueth was surrounded by talented offensive players and Brandon was not, so he had to force things more and I think that hurt his consistency. But his resulting numbers were pretty close to what Kueth did in the national champion ship year. And we made it to the Final Four. So he wasn’t as far off the goal I’d set as we thought. There’s also an interesting comparison to his uncle Howie, who was small forward. But the closest statistical match appears to be DeShaun Williams, another player who was consistently inconsistent but who showed flashes of being a better player than he actually turned out to be.
33.8m 16.1p 4.1r 4.3a 1.5s 0.1b 26.1+ 7.7mfg 1.3mft 3.2to 2.5pf 14.7- = 11.4NP 7.1OE 4.3FG
And:
Gene Waldron as a senior (1983-84)
28.0m 13.3p 3.1r 6.2a 2.7s 0.2b 25.5+ 4.7mfg 1.0mft 4.1to 4.6pf 14.4- = 11.1np 7.6oe 3.5fg
Michael Brown as a sophomore (1984-85)
23.4m 14.3p 3.9r 2.3a 1.4s 0.2b 22.1+ 6.0mfg 0.2mft 2.8to 3.1pf 12.1- = 10.0NP 8.1OE 1.9FG
Greg Monroe as a senior (1986-87)
31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- = 14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG
Howie Triche as a senior (1986-87)
30.1m 15.6p 6.3r 3.1a 1.4s 0.2b 26.6+ 6.5mfg 1.0mft 2.6to 3.8pf 13.9- = 12.7NP 8.1OE 4.6FG
Matt Roe as a sophomore (1987-88)
24.3m 15.2p 4.0r 3.2a 0.8s 0.1b 23.3+ 7.0mfg 0.4mft 1.6to 3.2pf 12.2- = 11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Mike Hopkins as a senior (1992-93)
28.2m 13.1p 5.2r 3.1a 2.1s 0.5b +24.0 5.7mfg 1.1mft 3.1to 3.7pf -13.6 = 10.4NP 6.3OE 4.1FG
Michael Lloyd as a junior (1994-95)
31.9m 15.7p 4.0r 6.5a 2.5s 0.1b +28.8 6.7mfg 2.0mft 3.8to 3.0pf -15.5 = 13.3NP 7.0OE 6.3FG
Lazarus Sims as a senior (1995-96)
35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 = 11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG
Jason Hart as a junior (1998-99)
32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 = 12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG
Alan Griffin 2000-01 as a senior (2000-01)
36.7m 11.8p 3.6r 7.1a 2.1s 0.2b +24.8 6.2mfg 1.4mft 3.1to 2.3pf -13.0 = 11.8NP 4.2OE 7.6FG
DeShaun Williams as a freshman (1999-2000)
16.0m 15.7p 3.8r 4.2a 2.8s 0.2b +26.7 7.4mfg 0.4mft 3.3to 3.8pf -14.9 = 11.8NP 7.9OE 3.9FG
Gerry McNamara as a freshman (2002-03)
35.3m 15.1p 2.6r 5.0a 2.5s 0.1b +25.3 7.1mfg 0.3mft 2.8to 2.2pf -12.4 = 12.9NP 7.7OE 5.2FG
Kueth Duany as a senior (2002-03)
27.0m 16.3p 5.4r 3.0a 1.5s 0.8b +27.0 7.2mfg 1.6mft 2.4to 3.2pf -14.4 = 12.6NP 7.5OE 5.1FG
Billy Edelin as a junior (2004-05)
15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- = 9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG
Josh Wright as a sophomore (2005-06)
12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- = 10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG
Eric Devendorf as a freshman (2005-06)
27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- = 11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Andy Rautins as a junior (2008-09)
28.6m 14.6p 4.6r 4.2a 2.0s 0.2b 25.6+ 7.9mfg 0.5mft 2.8to 2.8pf 14.0- = 11.6NP 6.2OE 5.4FG
Comment: I said before the season that I hoped Brandon Triche could be this year’s version of what Kueth Duany was a decade before: a solid, consistent all-round senior who leads the younger players by example. Other posters said they would be disappointed if that was all he was because they thought his capabilities were greater than that. I actually think he fell short of what I was describing as he was so inconsistent. But Kueth was surrounded by talented offensive players and Brandon was not, so he had to force things more and I think that hurt his consistency. But his resulting numbers were pretty close to what Kueth did in the national champion ship year. And we made it to the Final Four. So he wasn’t as far off the goal I’d set as we thought. There’s also an interesting comparison to his uncle Howie, who was small forward. But the closest statistical match appears to be DeShaun Williams, another player who was consistently inconsistent but who showed flashes of being a better player than he actually turned out to be.
