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Here is my annual comparison of players on the SU team that recently completed its season to past players. This is based on the numbers in the SU Media Guide, (also on the SU athletic website), which date back to the 1982-83 season. The abbreviations are: m = minutes per game; p, r, a, s and b are points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks per 40 minutes of play. + = the total of those stats. Mfg, mft, to and pf are missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and personal fouls per 40 minutes. - = the total of those stats. NP= “Net Points”, the positives, (+) minus the negatives (-). OE = offensive efficiency, points minus mfg and mft. FG= floor game, NP – OE.
DaJuan Coleman, a freshman
9.5m 15.0p 12.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.2b 30.8+ 7.1mfg 4.6mft 3.0to 3.9pf 18.6- = 12.2NP 3.3OE 8.9FG
And:
Andre Hawkins as a junior (1983-84)
28.3m 14.8p 8.4r 2.1a 1.5s 1.2b 28.0+ 4.4mfg 1.2mft 2.6to 5.6pf 13.8- = 14.2np 9.2oe 5.0fg
Rony Seikaly as a senior (1984-85)
25.0m 12.9p 10.2r 0.7a 0.6s 3.0b 27.4+ 4.2mfg 2.4mft 2.6to 6.2pf 15.4- = 12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG
Derek Brower as a junior (1986-87)
10.3m 12.1p 11.1r 2.0a 0.9s 1.9b 28.0+ 5.1mfg 3.0mft 3.3to 7.6pf 19.0- = 9.0NP 4.0OE 5.0FG
Rodney Walker as a sophomore (1986-87)
12.9m 13.7p 12.2r 0.9a 0.9s 0.2b 27.9+ 6.2mfg 1.5mft 2.7to 6.0pf 16.4- = 11.5NP 6.0OE 5.5FG
Dave Siock as a sophomore (1990-91)
9.3m 11.1p 8.2r 2.1a 1.8s 0.0b +23.2 4.6mfg 1.4mft 1.8to 4.6pf -12.4 = 10.8NP 5.1OE 5.7FG
Otis Hill as a freshman (1993-94)
24.3m 13.1p 9.2r 2.0a 1.6s 2.3b +28.2 4.7mfg 1.5mft 2.6to 6.3pf -15.1 = 13.1NP 6.9OE 6.2FG
Etan Thomas as a freshman (1996-97)
16.3m 14.0p 10.3r 0.3a 0.9s 4.7b +30.2 4.7mfg 3.7mft 3.2to 5.7pf -17.3 = 12.9NP 5.6OE 7.3FG
Eric Williams as a freshman (1997-98)
8.4m 14.3p 11.4r 2.9a 1.7s 1.0b +30.3 3.8mfg 2.9mft 6.0to 5.0pf -17.7 = 12.6NP 7.6OE 5.0FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore (2001-02)
14.7m 9.2p 10.2r 0.3a 1.3s 4.1b +25.1 1.9mfg 1.5mft 2.1to 7.6pf -13.1 = 12.0NP 5.8OE 6.2FG
Craig Forth as a freshman (2001-02)
21.7m 9.1p 8.3r 2.1a 1.4s 3.3b +24.2 4.8mfg 0.9mft 2.3to 5.5pf -13.5 = 10.7NP 5.0OE 5.7FG
Darryl Watkins as a sophomore (2004-05)
14.0m 10.4p 9.6r 1.2a 0.7s 4.1b 26.0+ 2.9mfg 1.4mft 1.6to 6.0pf 11.9- = 14.1NP 6.1OE 8.0FG
Arinze Onuaku as a freshman (2005-06)
7.1m 9.5p 13.2r 0.6a 0.8s 2.1b 26.2+ 3.0mfg 2.5mft 2.1to 5.1pf 12.7- = 13.5NP 4.0OE 9.5FG
Rick Jackson as a freshman (2007-08)
12.9m 11.5p 9.3r 1.7a 1.3s 3.9b 27.7+ 4.1mfg 2.2mft 2.8to 3.9pf 13.0- = 14.7NP 5.2OE 9.5FG
Comments: Most of these guys are muscular freshman or sophomore big men. What’s interesting is that most of them until recent years had a huge problem with fouls. But DaJuan, (at least compared to the rest of these guys) avoided fouling. I would think JB’s increased and now exclusive use of the zone has a lot to do with that. DaJuan is not the shot blocker some of these guys were. I think he’s a better passer than most of them but didn’t show that this year. He wasn’t a good defensive player but most of these guys weren’t at this stage. Etan Thomas seems the closest statistical match but Arinze Onuaku is probably the role model. DaJuan needs to copy AO’s moves on both in. He became almost an automatic guy in the paint on the offensive end and he learned to use his body to cut off drives at the other end. DCII could do that and add good passing and a facing the basket game. Both were/are strong rebounders, which we need to allow the guards to release on the fast break. Hopefully, we’ll see that next year.
DaJuan Coleman, a freshman
9.5m 15.0p 12.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.2b 30.8+ 7.1mfg 4.6mft 3.0to 3.9pf 18.6- = 12.2NP 3.3OE 8.9FG
And:
Andre Hawkins as a junior (1983-84)
28.3m 14.8p 8.4r 2.1a 1.5s 1.2b 28.0+ 4.4mfg 1.2mft 2.6to 5.6pf 13.8- = 14.2np 9.2oe 5.0fg
Rony Seikaly as a senior (1984-85)
25.0m 12.9p 10.2r 0.7a 0.6s 3.0b 27.4+ 4.2mfg 2.4mft 2.6to 6.2pf 15.4- = 12.0NP 6.3OE 5.7FG
Derek Brower as a junior (1986-87)
10.3m 12.1p 11.1r 2.0a 0.9s 1.9b 28.0+ 5.1mfg 3.0mft 3.3to 7.6pf 19.0- = 9.0NP 4.0OE 5.0FG
Rodney Walker as a sophomore (1986-87)
12.9m 13.7p 12.2r 0.9a 0.9s 0.2b 27.9+ 6.2mfg 1.5mft 2.7to 6.0pf 16.4- = 11.5NP 6.0OE 5.5FG
Dave Siock as a sophomore (1990-91)
9.3m 11.1p 8.2r 2.1a 1.8s 0.0b +23.2 4.6mfg 1.4mft 1.8to 4.6pf -12.4 = 10.8NP 5.1OE 5.7FG
Otis Hill as a freshman (1993-94)
24.3m 13.1p 9.2r 2.0a 1.6s 2.3b +28.2 4.7mfg 1.5mft 2.6to 6.3pf -15.1 = 13.1NP 6.9OE 6.2FG
Etan Thomas as a freshman (1996-97)
16.3m 14.0p 10.3r 0.3a 0.9s 4.7b +30.2 4.7mfg 3.7mft 3.2to 5.7pf -17.3 = 12.9NP 5.6OE 7.3FG
Eric Williams as a freshman (1997-98)
8.4m 14.3p 11.4r 2.9a 1.7s 1.0b +30.3 3.8mfg 2.9mft 6.0to 5.0pf -17.7 = 12.6NP 7.6OE 5.0FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore (2001-02)
14.7m 9.2p 10.2r 0.3a 1.3s 4.1b +25.1 1.9mfg 1.5mft 2.1to 7.6pf -13.1 = 12.0NP 5.8OE 6.2FG
Craig Forth as a freshman (2001-02)
21.7m 9.1p 8.3r 2.1a 1.4s 3.3b +24.2 4.8mfg 0.9mft 2.3to 5.5pf -13.5 = 10.7NP 5.0OE 5.7FG
Darryl Watkins as a sophomore (2004-05)
14.0m 10.4p 9.6r 1.2a 0.7s 4.1b 26.0+ 2.9mfg 1.4mft 1.6to 6.0pf 11.9- = 14.1NP 6.1OE 8.0FG
Arinze Onuaku as a freshman (2005-06)
7.1m 9.5p 13.2r 0.6a 0.8s 2.1b 26.2+ 3.0mfg 2.5mft 2.1to 5.1pf 12.7- = 13.5NP 4.0OE 9.5FG
Rick Jackson as a freshman (2007-08)
12.9m 11.5p 9.3r 1.7a 1.3s 3.9b 27.7+ 4.1mfg 2.2mft 2.8to 3.9pf 13.0- = 14.7NP 5.2OE 9.5FG
Comments: Most of these guys are muscular freshman or sophomore big men. What’s interesting is that most of them until recent years had a huge problem with fouls. But DaJuan, (at least compared to the rest of these guys) avoided fouling. I would think JB’s increased and now exclusive use of the zone has a lot to do with that. DaJuan is not the shot blocker some of these guys were. I think he’s a better passer than most of them but didn’t show that this year. He wasn’t a good defensive player but most of these guys weren’t at this stage. Etan Thomas seems the closest statistical match but Arinze Onuaku is probably the role model. DaJuan needs to copy AO’s moves on both in. He became almost an automatic guy in the paint on the offensive end and he learned to use his body to cut off drives at the other end. DCII could do that and add good passing and a facing the basket game. Both were/are strong rebounders, which we need to allow the guards to release on the fast break. Hopefully, we’ll see that next year.
